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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Education is a state thing Imran...
    Which, of course means that the federal government doesn't provide money grants for education...
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
      What kind of lefty are you. Those cuts would be absolutely devastating to the poor and needy. I'd rather have another war than drastic cuts to Section 8 housing, K-12 education, EITC, and the Child Tax Credit. Drastically cutting the EPA, National Science Foundation, and HHS would set back left leaning causes as well.
      I would rather not have a war costing trillions and hundreds of thousands of lives lost. I think it would be a bit more devastating.

      Additionally, after Rand Paul I suspect that the US would get a lefty on that... (and probably end up in a better place than we are now) while we seem capable of going into war after war after war.

      JM
      (once more, this is assuming that I believe Rand about being non-interventionist)
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
        Which, of course means that the federal government doesn't provide money grants for education...
        Why should they? It isn't under their area of responsibility. Does separation of powers not matter to you?
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
          What kind of lefty are you. Those cuts would be absolutely devastating to the poor and needy. I'd rather have another war than drastic cuts to Section 8 housing, K-12 education, EITC, and the Child Tax Credit. Drastically cutting the EPA, National Science Foundation, and HHS would set back left leaning causes as well.
          Plus you'd loose your government job.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
            Plus you'd loose your government job.
            ding ding ding ding ding

            See also: Why Donegeal hates me now: Scott Walker took some of his public money away
            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
              Plus you'd loose your government job.
              Not really. Rand's budget cuts don't appear to significantly affect the Department of Labor, and especially not the agency that regulates Pension obligations (we were deemed so impt that Dubya raised our budget every year he was President).
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #22
                Wow, Imran may actually work for the very part of DoL that causes my dad so many headaches. Explains a lot
                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                  Additionally, after Rand Paul I suspect that the US would get a lefty on that...
                  How did well has that worked after Reagan was President? Have we even gotten someone as left as Nixon since?
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    Wow, Imran may actually work for the very part of DoL that causes my dad so many headaches. Explains a lot
                    Good. People who don't pay their employees their pensions are crooks (which is also why we initiate criminal investigations) and should be given headaches.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                      The things that people like Paul are likely to cut aren't the ones you listed by the way. They'd set up Medicare and Medicaid to be a voucher system like Medicare Part D. That would basically solve dozens of problems in the healthcare industry and the federal deficit in one fell swoop.
                      What happens to people who need more healthcare than their voucher provides?

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                      • #26
                        OK I want to apologize for my last post it was unnecessarily harsh Imran. I was only meaning to tease. Apologies if you were offended

                        FYI My dad likes and respects most of the people he works with at DoL.

                        They do however give him significant headaches a lot of the time, and some of the rules they come up with for pension funding are in his opinion pretty bonkers. But there is room for controversy and disagreement.
                        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                          What happens to people who need more healthcare than their voucher provides?
                          The samething that happens in the UK under NICE. They probably die.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #28
                            HC: Ok, fair enough .

                            Most TPAs / legal counsel are nice as well. Only a handful are *******s (but that's because any percentage of people are *******s - we definitely have our ******* investigators as well).
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              OK I want to apologize for my last post it was unnecessarily harsh Imran. I was only meaning to tease. Apologies if you were offended
                              Bureaucrats need to be offended from time to time. It's good for them.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                                What happens to people who need more healthcare than their voucher provides?
                                There is a finite supply of healthcare, kentonio. It has to be rationed somehow. Right now the rationing occurs when doctors refuse to take additional medicaid or medicare patients because it is unprofitable. Switching to a voucher system would increase supply, since people could pay their doctors more for care, encouraging a greater supply of doctors.
                                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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