Bruce Jenner wants to called Belinda

[Pedotard]

What's with these feeeemales wanting to take birth control pills and not ovulate? Don't they know that they ovulate? WTF?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I smell political correctness - I could have scripted that response.

Ah, the Christian Brothers did their work well.

[Alexander's Horse]

OMG I'm a Christian Brothers product too

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Oh, hello.

Police in Los Angeles have confirmed reality TV star Bruce Jenner has been involved in a car crash in which one woman died.
Jenner himself wasn't hurt, but seven others were taken to hospital.
A woman in her seventies was pronounced dead at the scene on the Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu.
An LA police spokesman said there was no indication that Jenner, the stepfather of Kim Kardashian, was being chased by nearby paparazzi.
Jenner's publicist, Alan Nierob, said the 65-year-old wasn't hurt.
Sergeant Philip Brooks, from the Los Angeles County sheriff department, said Bruce Jenner's Cadillac Escalade went into the back of a Lexus sedan, which had just struck the back of a Toyota Prius.
The Lexus then veered into oncoming traffic in another lane and collided with a black Hummer.
Police said Jenner cooperated with investigators at the scene and passed a sobriety test.
He also offered a blood sample.
Jenner won a gold medal in the decathlon at the 1976 Olympics but is more widely known to many for his appearance on reality TV show Keeping Up With The Kardashians.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31237366

All arguments over. He can't drive. He's a woman.

[Proteus_MST]

Believing in Christianity has nothing to do with and is not remotely similar to the much more proximate delusion of thinking you're a woman when you are quite clearly a man. Even to believe in something provably false like Creationism just requires disbelieving the words of scientists when they talk to you. Thinking you are a women means looking down at your cock and balls and thinking "yah I shouldn't have those". The former is just ignorance. The latter is delusion. The two could not be less similar.
...

Then perhaps, in another way formulated it is less delusional for you:

Perhaps a MtF Transgender looks down at himself and thinks:
I just want to live like a woman ... to make matters complete then I also want to have breast implants and have an artificial vagina made out of my Penis and Testicles, so I look like a woman to everyone in the environment and can have sex similar to a woman, where a man can enter me with his **** and I may even experience an orgasm by this, similar to a woman

[Alexander's Horse]

All arguments over. He can't drive. He's a woman.

I hope Mrs Bunny and your daughters don't see that comment, or you're rabbit pie.

[EPW]

This problem will be much easier to deal with once we're all digitized.

[Sava]

I'm very disappointed in you Jon Miller. I wish I could unread your posts in this thread.

Despicable. Absolutely despicable. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

[Sava]

I'm flabbergasted that someone seemingly so intelligent could be so ignorant. You disgust me.

Your attitude is antithetical to Christian teachings. Love is patience and kindness, not judging people the way you do. I'm going to pray for you and hope that the Lord teaches you how to love others.

[EPW]

A man who actually thinks he's a physical woman with all the bits and goodies even though he's still anatomically a man would be delusional, not one who wants to be a woman or feels like he's a woman or one who has had a sex change operation.

/obvious

[EPW]

It's not like a sex change operation will turn you into a fish or something.

[EPW]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Sava]

A man who actually thinks he's a physical woman with all the bits and goodies even though he's still anatomically a man would be delusional, not one who wants to be a woman or feels like he's a woman or one who has had a sex change operation.

/obvious

You're throwing around words like "thinks" and "feels". There's a big distinction between the two. However, for the purposes of labeling someone "delusional", they are essentially meaningless and serve no legitimate purpose... other than to further a bigoted attitude towards such people.

None of you are trained clinical psychologists (IIRC). Best to leave the diagnostics to professionals.

[Jon Miller]

My perspective here is due to being a scientist. It is important to me primarily because I hate that significant portions of psychology (and anthropology and some other soft sciences) are not really science but rather are apologetics for liberal beliefs and philosophy. As a scientist it disgusts me (despite the fact that I am mostly liberal in sympathises).

If I was a traditional Christian, I expect I would see things differently. Because I would believe that the core of man was his soul and that the physical body could be corrupted (be deaf, be missing limbs, be the wrong sex).

But while I am a Christian, I am not a traditional Christian. I don't believe that there is Jon the soul and Jon the physical man, I don't think there is anything beyond Jon the physical man. So I don't think there is some internal component which can be male or female while the body is something different.

What is male or female is the body, and we can't change that now.

JM

[Dr Strangelove]

Has there been one person, ever, who was born a woman and became a man?

JM

"Penis-at-Twelve" Syndrome. It's for real. Look it up.