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  • Man, I just hate the way some people consume media.
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    • Originally posted by Elok View Post
      HowTF do you enjoy it? I mean, it's readable, but every twenty pages something horrible happens. Every single character is a reprehensible scheming ****head, except for the Starks who are sort of stoically dour, probably because they realize their world is a pit for fighting dogs and they can't get out. I guess that makes them the moral center, insofar as half of them hate each other but they don't do anything overtly antisocial about it?
      You pretty much have the crux of it. I read three of the books before realizing that this is all it ever really is. Plus they constantly do very mean things to the Starks, pretty much the only characters that are basically good.
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      • Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
        Depends, did you only watch the movies and read the book once long ago?
        Yes.
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        • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
          Man, I just hate the way some people consume media.
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          • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            You pretty much have the crux of it. I read three of the books before realizing that this is all it ever really is. Plus they constantly do very mean things to the Starks, pretty much the only characters that are basically good.
            So, does Lord Sister****er end up having a good, morally redeeming reason for defenestrating the kid? I'm not quite halfway through the book, just past the part where the fat kid joins the blackguards, tells the story about his dad threatening to kill him, and gets help from Jon Snow. I'm starting to wonder about JRRM's attitudes towards women, too. The tomboy sister is the honest one, the girly-girl is stupid and weak. He lovingly describes young Daeynaeyrysys getting fondled/plowed by her crypto-Mongol, and after the two dozenth weepy-doggy session she starts to like it. The queen has yet to show a personality trait other than "gratuitously *****y/evil." Etc.
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            • Originally posted by Elok View Post
              So, does Lord Sister****er end up having a good, morally redeeming reason for defenestrating the kid?
              No.
              I'm not quite halfway through the book, just past the part where the fat kid joins the blackguards, tells the story about his dad threatening to kill him, and gets help from Jon Snow. I'm starting to wonder about JRRM's attitudes towards women, too. The tomboy sister is the honest one, the girly-girl is stupid and weak. He lovingly describes young Daeynaeyrysys getting fondled/plowed by her crypto-Mongol, and after the two dozenth weepy-doggy session she starts to like it. The queen has yet to show a personality trait other than "gratuitously *****y/evil." Etc.
              Yeah, it's squicky and gross the whole way through.

              He has strong female characters that repeatedly have horrific **** done to them. But all the characters have horrific **** done to them. I read through most of the series and I think the "good guys" win like, once out of every ten times. The only people who are really basically good are the blackguard dudes and they get royally ****ed constantly.
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              • HC are you actually 8 years old?

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                • If I were 8 and you compared me to HC, I'd be insulted
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                  • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                    HC are you actually 8 years old?
                    I have no difficulty with the mind bogglingly bad things that happen to people. It actually doesn't bother me. What does bother me is that it isn't balanced out with any good things happening to anyone. It's just a depressing world throughout. Add to that the fact that there are about 4 or 40 or so times as many characters as the number that I actually care at all about, the books are long as hell with lovingly detailed monologues about stuff I find totally uninteresting ("LEMON CAKES!"), I fail to see anything compelling about the books at all.
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                    • My response is full of non-specific spoilers.

                      Originally posted by Elok View Post
                      So, does Lord Sister****er end up having a good, morally redeeming reason for defenestrating the kid?
                      Can you think of a good, morally redeeming reason for defenestrating a kid? Jaime does grow considerably, though.

                      I'm starting to wonder about JRRM's attitudes towards women, too. The tomboy sister is the honest one, the girly-girl is stupid and weak.
                      Again, both characters grow a lot. It becomes increasingly more difficult to root for Arya, and increasingly understandable why Sansa behaves the way she does.

                      He lovingly describes young Daeynaeyrysys getting fondled/plowed by her crypto-Mongol, and after the two dozenth weepy-doggy session she starts to like it.
                      Humans are adaptable creatures/Stockholm Syndrome is a *****.

                      The queen has yet to show a personality trait other than "gratuitously *****y/evil." Etc.
                      You eventually develop some sympathy for Cersei, but as far as I'm concerned her actions never become justifiable.
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                      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        I have no difficulty with the mind bogglingly bad things that happen to people. It actually doesn't bother me. What does bother me is that it isn't balanced out with any good things happening to anyone. It's just a depressing world throughout. Add to that the fact that there are about 4 or 40 or so times as many characters as the number that I actually care at all about, the books are long as hell with lovingly detailed monologues about stuff I find totally uninteresting ("LEMON CAKES!"), I fail to see anything compelling about the books at all.
                        Your response is further proof that you're a close-minded little ***** that views the world in extremes of black and white. What you describe couldn't be further from the truth - it's as if you and I have read two completely different stories...
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                        • Originally posted by I AM MOBIUS View Post
                          Your response is further proof that you're a close-minded little ***** that views the world in extremes of black and white. What you describe couldn't be further from the truth - it's as if you and I have read two completely different stories...
                          Is this post intentionally ironic, or do you just lack any self-awareness?
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                          • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                            You eventually develop some sympathy for Cersei
                            ...you do?

                            Spoiler:
                            also, Sansa's getting the masterclass on how to be mind****ingly good at the whole political game from Littlefinger. I have every hope that she will grow into a badass, which probably means she'll be killed off in the next book, eight chapters in.
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                            • Originally posted by self biased View Post
                              ...you do?
                              I think so.
                              Spoiler:
                              Her marriage to Robert was a ****ty deal. He was an abusive drunk who raped her repeatedly, and there was absolutely nothing she could do about it because he was the king.
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                              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                I have no difficulty with the mind bogglingly bad things that happen to people. It actually doesn't bother me. What does bother me is that it isn't balanced out with any good things happening to anyone.
                                I have no idea how you could come away with that impression.

                                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                It's just a depressing world throughout. Add to that the fact that there are about 4 or 40 or so times as many characters as the number that I actually care at all about, the books are long as hell with lovingly detailed monologues about stuff I find totally uninteresting ("LEMON CAKES!"), I fail to see anything compelling about the books at all.
                                So you don't care about the details that make the characters more than just an obvious outline, you just concentrate on the major events? Have you ever thought that perhaps this could be a factor in why you find it such a 'depressing world'?

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