what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Bereta_Eder]

Wars today are more humane (but only barely so) because of the internet.

That's not true.
A million tweets wouldn't be able to help Syria or Libya

Internet is better at distributing ideas but that's about it

(obligatory)

[Bereta_Eder]

Something you can say (and not be killed or imprisoned) because of the efforts of the west.

My concerns go beyond caring for myself

[Bereta_Eder]

slightly

[Bereta_Eder]

To elaborate,
hitler was a great admirer of the english colonialism.
Without the one, there wouldn't be the other.
england = hitler.

Now if we map NATO's "interventions" they are identical with nazi germany.


That's clear so far.
It could mean nothing, it could mean anything.

Who is the absolut murderer of the peoples? americans.

Hell you're argentinian, Chile is just some distance away, you should know. Shame.

Now, freedom of speech and private initiative.

Sure it's nice.

Doesn't mean anything though if you look at it from all the countries affected by that.


I should be thankful to the west?

For what?

I am thankful to the people here that fought for the right to say what I ****ing well please. The west has nothing to do with that. Actually murica impeded it. (not the west at large, although that contruct is no longer applicable)

[Dinner]

Poor Paiktis, one step forward and two steps back.

[Dinner]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/06/russian-air-defence-missiles-would-respond-if-us-launches-air-st/

That is hilarious. Just on jets in theater alone the Russians are out numbered 20 to one. What a joke.

[Dinner]

It appears there are still some Russian military men who understand how numbers work.
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Konstantin Sivkov, an expert at the Russian artillery academy, told the independent NSN new agency that war was unlikely because the United States could wipe out Russia’s air contingent in Syria “in a few days.”

[Aeson]

War is unlikely because of ICBMs.

[Ellestar]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...unches-air-st/

That is hilarious. Just on jets in theater alone the Russians are out numbered 20 to one. What a joke.

That's not the reason not to defend our longstanding ally against terrorists, be it ISIS, Al-Nusra or USA.

And btw you have more jets? Good. We have more SAMs

P.S. Actual quote was that we'll shoot down all UFOs.

[Proteus_MST]

Lets hope their crews are better at telling passenger jets from fighter jets, than the russian buk crew that shot down MH-17

[Ellestar]

Lets hope their crews are better at telling passenger jets from fighter jets, than the russian buk crew that shot down MH-17

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

And indeed, what western press called "troves of evidence"

http://time.com/4512834/mh17-russia-buk-ukraine-evidence-putin/

"including intercepted phone calls" - not mentioning "buk", "missile", "SAM", "airplane" in any way, shape or form, even indirectly

"photos and videos of the BUK being transported" - proven fakes and/or low-quality bull**** that can't be verified, so it's definitely not evidence

"thousands of boxes of wreckage and shrapnel collected from the crash site" - that proves that it can't be a newer warhead with bowtie/buterfly elements, but that's conveniently ignored by so called "investigation team"

So, you, Proteus_MST, and your western press are worthy successors of Hitler. You do it exaclty as Hitler said in Mein Kampf.

[Ellestar]

http://time.com/4512834/mh17-russia-buk-ukraine-evidence-putin/

"Besides, don't you see something wrong with "joint investigation team"? "the prime suspect in the investigation – the Russian government"

Actually, that's also a lie. There are three main suspects - Russian government, Ukrainian rebels and Ukrainian government. However, Ukrainian government is the only side that is in a "Joint Investigation Team". So, naturally, they produced all that bull**** that can't be accepted in any court as something even remotely close to evidence. And Ukraine still hides radar data, aircraft traffic controller talks and location of their Buks at the time of the downing of MH17. It's only known that Ukrainian Buks were in the region because they shown them on their own TV 1-3 days before it, and said that Ukrainian Buks are coverning troops from Russian planes, but they hide their exact locations.

"That report did not even bother to mention the investigation’s key finding: that the missile came from Russia."

That's because missile did come from Russia, as the Russia (or probably RSFSR, if it's the oldest type of warhead) is the only producer. The question is not, IF it come from Russia. The question is WHEN did it come from Russia, two or twenty years ago, and WHO owned it at that moment.

"But the investigators acknowledged on Wednesday that they have no idea when the evidence would be sufficient to name the suspects and bring criminal charges."

They can try to find them in Kiev. At the very least, they can bring criminal charges against the ones who didn't close it's airspace. And in any case, Ukraine is responsible for the safety of aircrafts on their territory. But that's also magically ignored by so called "investigation team".

Inside Russia, that would be a safe bet, because the vast majority of Russians get their information from the Kremlin’s media outlets. In order to maintain their cover up of this tragedy, it turns out Russia does not need to hide the facts of the case or the clues that were scattered in those fields of wheat and sunflowers in eastern Ukraine. It only needs to cloud the debate with alternative truths of its own invention.

Well, i can read just about any english text, and i'm still not conviced. And i don't read any Kremlin's media by itself (only if i get some links from other sources or google). Stop hiding facts from me, *****es! Give me some facts, not the ususal bull****

[BeBMan]

And all of russia

Dunno about this.

[BeBMan]

Conversation is over.

Probably

[BeBMan]

And what Saras said.

Good advice