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  • Have you ever been to the states BE?
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
      Hey Ellestar...just curious...

      Do you think that it is possible that his collaboration with the Nazi's was just an ill conceived attempt to get Ukraine out from under Soviet Domination?
      Look, if his organization kills all "non-Ukrainians", including Jews and Polish in villages all over Ukraine, it's a good proof that they're Nazis themselves, right? Just ask Polish people on this forum what do they think about OUN-UPA. Or, for example, google "OUN-UPA" and look at the pictures that are found with that search request, dismembered kindergarden children and things like that. ISIS are pacifists compared to OUN-UPA, actually even German Nazis were appalled by OUN-UPA cruelty.

      Originally posted by PLATO View Post
      Also...Is it hard to believe that Ukrainians are chanting "Kill Muscovites" when Russian troops are again occupying part of Ukraine and inciting rebellion in other parts of Ukraine?
      Well, if you care about the actual sequence of events, you may notice that first marches like that openly started in Ukraine, and only after that Crimea and Donbass decided to get away from Nazis and pro-Nazi government that occupied Kiev after the coup. So, if you're a decent person, not a shameless hypocrite, you can't use an argument that you're trying to pull here, because the cause and effect was completely opposite to what you just claimed.

      And if you use words like "again occupying part of Ukraine", care to explain when exactly in world history existed a country of Ukraine, other than in the last 23 years?
      Knowledge is Power

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      • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
        http://news.yahoo.com/eu-ukraine-tra...4-c343ebc7443c

        On the topic related to Russia the EU-Ukrainian free trade agreement took effect today and the Ukrainian government has said 1/3rd of the country's agricultural producers already comply with EU standards so the Ukrainian economy really is improving quality and opening new export markets. The Russian dictator Putin announced a ban on food from the Ukraine because he is so mad they didn't want to be his slave colony.
        We were bying weapon parts and helicopter turbines from a "slave colony" of Ukraine. Please show me from which African country the West buys it's helicopter turbines But wait, there is more, Ukrainian export to EU fallen by 35%. The only increase was the export of nuts, thatch and wadding, 100% "slave colony" goods So, facts are that the West made Russian industrial partner into Western slave colony.
        Knowledge is Power

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        • Yes. Inquisitive minds want to know why the export of industrial goods produced in the war torn eastern part of the country went down while exports of agricultural goods from the relatively quiet western part of the country are on the rise...

          Hypocrite.
          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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          • Originally posted by dannubis View Post
            Yes. Inquisitive minds want to know why the export of industrial goods produced in the war torn eastern part of the country went down while exports of agricultural goods from the relatively quiet western part of the country are on the rise...

            Hypocrite.
            Compared to a year ago? At that moment Ukraine already didn't control that territory. Any more excuses?
            Knowledge is Power

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            • Come to think about it, Polish political scientist explained to everyone that "Украинцы - это наши негры" - "Ukrainians are our Negroes". So indeed Ukraine is a new slave colony of the West
              Knowledge is Power

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              • Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
                Come to think about it, Polish political scientist explained to everyone that "Украинцы - это наши негры" - "Ukrainians are our Negroes". So indeed Ukraine is a new slave colony of the West
                http://youtu.be/VwPs6GXCUTk?t=35
                I love the easterns (some of them) because they are dumb.

                They think their biggest threat is russia whereas it is the autocratic regimes they set up with complete disregard for the rule of law.

                Their govs use the fear of russia (sic) to press forward all kind of conservative politics some of which are in clear violation of human rights charter.

                Of course the US doesn't care as long as its geopolitical interests are met and it tries to sponsor them as something good.


                (BTW To display what the medecin that oerdin wants us for example to receive because we are so privileged and entitled: here it is

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                It's a great miracle thar Russia steps up to help those unfortunate few that fall in the claws of the US.


                They are clearly a menace. Stealing the world to feed thmesleves

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                • NOw oerdin will say "we had it coming"

                  If we do good is "because they gave you money" if we do bad it's "because we don't follow advice"


                  A Greek (a nation of liers and deadbeats) according to him is the new jew. Plain.
                  Why? because ti doesn't follow his stinking ideology.

                  just as he says that russians are some sort of primitives or that arabs are inherently violent.


                  It is a clear nazi ideology.

                  His country completely destroyed iraq, gave birth to ISIS, destroyed Syria and all he does is shifting the blame.
                  (They are primitives, inherently violent whatever)

                  You know what the nazis said when they wanted to excavate a jewish cemetary?

                  "We have to do it. It's for the architectural good of the city"

                  Replace nazis with US ideology = same result


                  The greek word to signify such behavior is Στρεψοδικία, the act of shifting blame.
                  It's very transparent.
                  Last edited by Bereta_Eder; January 3, 2016, 17:19.

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                  • Now he says we will take our medecin as some sort of dictator, deluding himself into thinking his ideology or way of thinking is the only answer or the only way.


                    He is of course wrong.

                    It is the same mentality that sees palestinians killed by the thousands and him still cheerleading for the irsaelis.

                    The same ideology that sees poland eclipsing itself into a semi non free state, with the US blessings since it can "counter" russia (they think)

                    The same ideology that prevents him from seeing that ukraine is a tottally destroyed country exactly because his country wanted to counter russia.

                    Oerdin's ideology is the supreme evil of this world and as such must be dealt, every moment and every waking hour.
                    Just as the nazis were defeated so is he, little by little.


                    And lest we forget, always hit them where it hurts. state: 137

                    Greek politicians vote in Palestine for state recognition in a session attended by Palestinian President Abbas.

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                    • In order to try and explain such dehumanizing aspects of oerdin's inhuman, nazi ideology
                      we have to go back to the roots.

                      What is the US? What is its connecting tissue? What is it that makes it a nation?

                      The answer is of course nothing.

                      There is nothing to connect those people together.
                      They are a country violently stolen from someone else without any historical justification for its existance.

                      A country where the nazi ideology of the "white" has claimed its "rightful" place.

                      A country with no common roots, infested with police brutality, severe wealth inequality, exploding racism, complete disregard for the fellow man as is apparent due to their lack of social provisions, worker's protection, healthcare safety net.
                      In order to care for your fellow human being, you have to feel he is your own.

                      There is no such thing.

                      it is a country where one kills the other because he doesn't care for the other just as they kill all over the world.

                      An historical accident.

                      A true nazi heir.

                      A country where capitalism thrives in its purest, ugliest form.

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                      • U mad, bro?
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • Oerdin = Hitler. I knew it!
                          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                          "Capitalism ho!"

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                          • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                            I love the easterns (some of them) because they are dumb.

                            They think their biggest threat is russia whereas it is the autocratic regimes they set up with complete disregard for the rule of law.

                            Their govs use the fear of russia (sic) to press forward all kind of conservative politics some of which are in clear violation of human rights charter.

                            Of course the US doesn't care as long as its geopolitical interests are met and it tries to sponsor them as something good.


                            (BTW To display what the medecin that oerdin wants us for example to receive because we are so privileged and entitled: here it is

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                            It's a great miracle thar Russia steps up to help those unfortunate few that fall in the claws of the US.


                            They are clearly a menace. Stealing the world to feed thmesleves
                            It sucks but this is what happens when you run out of money and have crushing debt loads due to decades of incompetence. You guys did it to yourselves. Where you go wrong is thinking your fool's paradise could continue because it can't.

                            So now reality hits you and you need to reform and liberalize if you want to actually start growing again. It would help if your lefty PM stopped causing crisises which put you back into recession. Everyone else managed it and you guys could too if you just actually did the reforms. It was your choice to drag this out for six years.
                            Last edited by Dinner; January 3, 2016, 23:43.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • I have learnt one thing from this thrade.

                              Oerdin owns a washing machine.

                              Nothing else has been agreed in umpteen pages of disputation.

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                              • Have you learned what the implication of owning a washing machine is? I'm wondering if I'm doing something horribly wrong by having one ...

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