UK: Obese woman blames government

[Colon™]

I see kentonio as more of a Boris Johnson type of Conservative (well, to certain extent anyways ).

Johnson certainly isn't anti-business.

[Imran Siddiqui]

He's definitely pro-welfare state though.

[kentonio]

...but you still kiss the photo of thatcher by your bed every night before bedtime, right?

Always.

[C0ckney]

Please feel free to explain what a couple of random quotes from news sites is supposed to actually mean btw. You do understand for instance that The Guardian is a very left wing paper, and their 'analysis' of the Tory party is usually going to be on the level of 'Well after they rose from the 9th circle of hell..'.

the guardian can hardly be described as very left-wing. it's a slightly left-of-centre liberal (big and small l) establishment paper.

[kentonio]

the guardian can hardly be described as very left-wing. it's a slightly left-of-centre liberal (big and small l) establishment paper.

It's not particularly left wing if you're a left winger. If you're on the right, it's a daily version of Mao's Little Red Book.

[C0ckney]

of course one's own perspective comes into it, but i'm really curious as to why you think the guardian is left wing?

[kentonio]

of course one's own perspective comes into it, but i'm really curious as to why you think the guardian is left wing?

I laugh at both sides to be honest, but from a centrist standpoint the Guardian is quite left wing. Not as left wing as the Telegraph and Paper-that-Shall-Not-be-Named are right wing, but definitely left wing. Sometime I find it a really interesting read, but sometimes it just frustrates the hell out of me with it's naivety.

[C0ckney]

well it does have a few writers who can be described as left-wing, but it's editorial line is pretty centrist (what kind of left-wing newspaper would have a leader entitled "in praise of ian duncan smith"?!), its principal writers straddle both sides of the centre ground, and electorally it supports the liberal democrats.

i suppose the focus on identity politics leads to people to think it's a left-wing paper, but to me that says more about its urban (perhaps metropolitan would be better here), liberal, middle class outlook.

[Colon™]

He's definitely pro-welfare state though.

Johnson is above all weird. People who hold business responsible for social injustices usually also believe welfare ought to rectify those injustices through redistribution. Anti-business sentiments go hand in hand with pro-welfare sentiments.

[Colon™]

The Guardian is very slanted in reports that concern business and finance.

[Bereta_Eder]

Johnson is above all weird. People who hold business responsible for social injustices usually also believe welfare ought to rectify those injustices through redistribution. Anti-business sentiments go hand in hand with pro-welfare sentiments.

I don't think anyone is holding bussinesses responsible for social inustices. That's like holding chimpazees responsible for not having invented the cure for cancer.

[Colon™]

Fix your debts first!

[Bereta_Eder]

On a deja discute ca.

[Bosh]

I have sympathy for this for the working poor since making cheap healthy food is pretty time consuming and fast food is pretty good at hitting both fast and cheap. But if you don't have a ****ing job you have plenty of time to boil bean and ****.

[Kidlicious]

I don't think anyone is holding bussinesses responsible for social inustices. That's like holding chimpazees responsible for not having invented the cure for cancer.

Marxists are.