Relaunching the Men's Rights movement

[Bereta_Eder]

Also erm, la lenteur (the slowness?) is a great book too.
He did write some messed up things "(laughable loves" for example) but he was only in his 20's then IIRC

[loinburger]

The tragedy of the men's rights movement is that there are a few legitimate men's rights causes, eg custody battles often favor women. However, the movement has so many angry retarded Kidiciouses in it that they receive the vast majority of the attention and the few legitimate causes are ignored.

[Dinner]

I can agree with that. Like the Palestinians the men's rights people often seem to be their own worst enemies.

[Elok]

The tragedy of the men's rights movement is that there are a few legitimate men's rights causes, eg custody battles often favor women. However, the movement has so many angry retarded Kidiciouses in it that they receive the vast majority of the attention and the few legitimate causes are ignored.

It also discourages intelligent critiques of feminism and/or feminists.

[ZEE]

Elok is a nerd.

[Kidlicious]

The tragedy of the men's rights movement is that there are a few legitimate men's rights causes, eg custody battles often favor women. However, the movement has so many angry retarded Kidiciouses in it that they receive the vast majority of the attention and the few legitimate causes are ignored.

Somehow, and I'm flabbergasted, that's stupider than feminism.

Let's hear your theory about Father's Rights. Why are fathers denied their rights and what is the solution. If you refuse to answer please have the decency to shut up.

[loinburger]

Somehow, and I'm flabbergasted, that's stupider than feminism.

Let's hear your theory about Father's Rights. Why are fathers denied their rights and what is the solution. If you refuse to answer please have the decency to shut up.

Do you actually care about father's rights? Seeing as how you said that you can't wait to stop paying child support it appeared that you don't give a **** about father's rights

As for the solution: the best thing that can happen for father's rights is for imbeciles like you to shut the hell up about the evils of femininism etc

[Kidlicious]

Do you actually care about father's rights? Seeing as how you said that you can't wait to stop paying child support it appeared that you don't give a **** about father's rights

As for the solution: the best thing that can happen for father's rights is for imbeciles like you to shut the hell up about the evils of femininism etc

You are now, in my book, as stupid as BK.

[kentonio]

Somehow, and I'm flabbergasted, that's stupider than feminism.

Here's the thing you see.. you keep using the word 'feminism' which actually describes a loosely defined ideology/movement which has existed for well over a century and which was responsible for things like the suffragette movement, workplace equality, sexual and physical protection laws amongst many, many others.

When you use that word and you call it 'stupid' or make out as if it's somehow a force for evil, well you sound like a bit of a massive *****.

[Kidlicious]

Here's the thing you see.. you keep using the word 'feminism' which actually describes a loosely defined ideology/movement which has existed for well over a century and which was responsible for things like the suffragette movement, workplace equality, sexual and physical protection laws amongst many, many others.

When you use that word and you call it 'stupid' or make out as if it's somehow a force for evil, well you sound like a bit of a massive *****.

The movement is good for women, don't get me wrong on that. Unfortunately, it makes no sense. It's just wrong about too many things. But the reason it's time for it to go is that feminists do not tolerate criticism of their movement and the very idea of patriarchy in the West should be laughed at. It really is very stupid, just as I said. Now the question is, why can't I say that? Why are you calling me a *****.

[Elok]

In general, when reading Kid's posts, you should mentally substitute "the editors of Jezebel.com" for "feminists," and imagine a world where they have about twenty times as much influence as they do here. That will at least get the two of you on the same page.

[Kidlicious]

In general, when reading Kid's posts, you should mentally substitute "the editors of Jezebel.com" for "feminists," and imagine a world where they have about twenty times as much influence as they do here. That will at least get the two of you on the same page.

It's either ignorant or dishonest to claim that it's only the writers at jezebel who are intolerant. That's something impossible to prove wrong. You are probably just taking advantage of 1) ignorance 2) apathy.

[loinburger]

The movement is good for women, don't get me wrong on that. Unfortunately, it makes no sense. It's just wrong about too many things. But the reason it's time for it to go is that feminists do not tolerate criticism of their movement and the very idea of patriarchy in the West should be laughed at. It really is very stupid, just as I said. Now the question is, why can't I say that? Why are you calling me a *****.

The only concrete criticism of femininism that you've made lately is that it has unfairly caused a football player who assaulted his fiance to lose his job. Other than that you only paint femininism as some vague bogeyman that is trying to castrate all men

[kentonio]

The movement is good for women, don't get me wrong on that. Unfortunately, it makes no sense. It's just wrong about too many things.

It's a movement that has 'made sense' by providing women with equality and protection under law. Oh and the right to actually partake in the democratic process at all. Please explain exactly what doesn't make sense to you.

But the reason it's time for it to go is that feminists do not tolerate criticism of their movement and the very idea of patriarchy in the West should be laughed at. It really is very stupid, just as I said. Now the question is, why can't I say that? Why are you calling me a *****.

1) It is nothing to do with you whether feminism stays or goes. Why would you think you have the right to tell other people what they can believe and support? As for feminists not tolerating criticism, which feminists might these be? Given that there's no such thing as an umbrella organization of feminists, just a loosely defined ideology and a number of unconnected (and fairly small) groups of feminists attempting to achieve various goals or agendas, how does it even make any sense to claim 'feminists do x' or 'feminists think x'?

2) Patriarchy in the west might be laughable to you, because you're not one of the people who actually have to deal with it in the workplace and throughout society. You sound like a white guy insisting that racism 'isn't a thing any more'.

3) You can say whatever you like, and equally we can call you a ***** or an out of touch dinosaur or whatever. All this "feminism is stupid" stuff just makes you sound like an idiot though. Justify your wild claims, instead of just throwing all this vague bull**** around.

Incidentally, Elok is quite right. It sounds like nothing more than that you've heard some fairly extreme stuff from the feminist fringe groups and decided to buy into the nonsensical conspiracy theories that the MRA groups are peddling.

[ZEE]

Kidicious is kicking some Poly booty in this thrade.

also Slowwy is a poop.