The ongoing ISIS massacres

[MrFun]

Let Iraq fragment. It's a creation left over from European colonialism.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

let them fight.

US taget trainigng in missdddle east. gives the US a reason to be there with so many asssetrss

let them ight.

[Nikolai]

Let Iraq fragment. It's a creation left over from European colonialism.

So you, who claim to be a Christian, wants the Middle Eastern Christians to fend for themselves. Which means dying, for many of them. Got it.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

yeah, i'll say it.. for sure. god is fluff...

fight or run... but whatever. whatever, who ever you kneel to. what differne does it f* make????

[MrFun]

So you, who claim to be a Christian, wants the Middle Eastern Christians to fend for themselves. Which means dying, for many of them. Got it.

Um, no.

I think Iraq needs to be replaced with new nations/states. But we certainly still need to intervene against the crimes against humanity being committed.

There could be a way to implement a process where Iraq is broken up into new states, while stopping the slaughter of Middle Eastern Christians.

[C0ckney]

The general consensus is that it will be like Yugoslavia, but bigger and uglier.

according to whom and why?

Er, because we're talking about radically different situations being tackled by different people with different objectives, so it doesn't necessarily follow that similar outcomes will result? Also, the situation is already FUBAR and looking like it's going to get worse, but we might at least salvage Kurdistan and some refugees.

'we may not **** it up so badly this time' doesn't sound like a very positive case.

just to be clear i fully support the west providing humanitarian aid and taking in refugees. the kurds (who are certainly not above a bit of 'we are in trouble, please send us some guns and bombs uncle sam!') will be alright. as has already been noted ISIS struggles in non-sunni arab areas and/or where they meet stiff resistance, and they kurds can provide plenty of that. we can look at the performance of the much poorer and meagerly equipped syrian kurdish forces (YPG) against ISIS as an example.

[DinoDoc]

as has already been noted ISIS struggles in non-sunni arab areas and/or where they meet stiff resistance, and they kurds can provide plenty of that. we can look at the performance of the much poorer and meagerly equipped syrian kurdish forces (YPG) against ISIS as an example.

How were they able to capture Mosul Dam from Kurdish forces if they struggle so much in non-sunni areas?

[Dr Strangelove]

Let Iraq fragment. It's a creation left over from European colonialism.

Have you seen maps of how the Turks divided it? They were even worse. It's true that there was a separate Basra province which was almost all Shiite, but the Baghdad and Mosul provinces were as mixed as Iraq is now.

[C0ckney]

How were they able to capture Mosul Dam from Kurdish forces if they struggle so much in non-sunni areas?

you seem to have fogotten that they lost control of it 10 days later.

[DinoDoc]

you seem to have fogotten that they lost control of it 10 days later.

Only after US airstrikes began.

[C0ckney]

and?

[dannubis]

So you, who claim to be a Christian, wants the Middle Eastern Christians to fend for themselves. Which means dying, for many of them. Got it.

Yes, yes, I have heard of this type of thinking before. I thought it was called the Crusades. Got it.

[C0ckney]

it's worth remembering that it was the invasion of iraq in 2003 that proceeded the exodus of christians from there.

[Sava]

the Middle Eastern Christians to fend for themselves

They should GTFO. I'd welcome them with open arms if they wanted to come to America.

I'm sick of eurotrash always whining for America to go police the world while simultaneously calling us imperialists and whatnot.

Let the Norwegians deal with it, if you mofos want. Either that or start paying us some taxes, ****er

[MrFun]

And for the record, a group of oppressed people being slaughtered do not have to be Christian before I'm outraged about it, and speaking out against such crimes; they just have to be human beings. So your question you asked me, Nikolai, seemed to have implied that I should be especially concerned because this group of victims are Christian, and because I'm also a Christian, but all that needs to be true, is the fact that they are human beings.

What say you, Nikolai?