Uhm, WTF Britain?

[kentonio]

Congrats Dauphin!

[molly bloom]

I'm upset by a State that orders an invasive medical procedure over the objections of the person in question

Ah yes, the educationally subnormal person in question.

I understand that you live in a country which deems for the purposes of politics and keeping the plebs happy, that the mentally ill and those with low I.Q.s and the underage can be treated as adults when it comes to punishment, but you should be aware there are other saner countries where it is felt that such people may lack the mens rea.


In a similar fashion, some people's welfare is better looked after by being made a ward of court or having a judge make informed decisions for them, as they may not be entirely compos mentis.

Good to see you still don't give a damn about the whole underage sexual abuse aspect of the case. So much more important for you that the young female is pregnant and thus potentially able to complete what you undoubtedly see as her primary purpose.

[molly bloom]

I have a newborn baby (less than a week old). I experienced the birth from the delivery room the entire time. My wife lost 2 litres of blood. Your comment shows you know **** all.

Egads, two litres. Hope she's on iron supplements or likes eating liver. Best wishes to all three of you and good health for you all.

I'm not sure anyone would regard the process of delivery a baby to be 'invasive'.

Is there some easy to understand Ladybird book on the human reproductive process you could get hold of ? Try Stan Brakhage's film 'Window Water Baby Moving'.

You know how they're conceived, right ? Now think of forceps, sutures, plasters, fingers, swabs, and clamps in that general area.

And I'm not referring to storks, birds, bees, cabbage patches or chimney pots.

That's without the delivery being Caesarean of course, as mine was. After 24 hours in labour.

[Dauphin]

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2014/1871.html

DD, have a read. It is more factual than a news article as it sets out the details of the case as seen by the judge.

[Dauphin]

In particular the bit where he says the Court can not order an abortion.

[Sava]

The DinoDoc style guardians of public morality clearly aren't that upset about the rape and sexual abuse of an educationally and emotionally subnormal barely pubescent teenage girl.

Dino is just wondering if he can make a cheap partisan remark about her. If there's a way to blindly blame Obama for this, he will.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I think we've already established that DD prefers to eschew dreary reality, and instead argue about events that solely occurred in his malarial dreams.

[Dinner]

To be fair, that is the standard position of the American right wing. They love their delusional malarial dreams. Seriously, love them. So much so they're constantly inventing an unending stream of complete bull**** just like this.

[dannubis]

It's like you show up on command. Like Beetlejuice.

it takes 2 to tango though.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Your deliberate stupidity is nauseating. Like so many of you pro-life people you'd rather feel like a smug righteous ***** about it than find any middle ground.

I am pro-choice up until the 24th week, so yay for assuming making an ass out of you!

[C0ckney]

DD, have a read. It is more factual than a news article as it sets out the details of the case as seen by the judge.

dd will be conspicuous by his absence from now on in this thread.

also, far more importantly, congratulations dauphin. i hope mother and baby are doing well.

[kentonio]

I am pro-choice up until the 24th week, so yay for assuming making an ass out of you!

Yet you just called me a hypocrite for trying to explain a common pro-choice position. Yet again you're just being a dick for the sake of it.

Here's a thought (as you didn't bother answering my pm), perhaps you might want to stop taking any negative discussion about religion as a personal attack on yourself and then acting like a butthurt little ***** for weeks afterwards?

[Dauphin]

[Thanks all for well wishes - now back to the thread]

[dannubis]

perhaps you might want to stop taking any negative discussion about religion as a personal attack on yourself and then acting like a butthurt little ***** for weeks afterwards?

HEAR HEAR !!!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yet you just called me a hypocrite for trying to explain a common pro-choice position.

Common pro-choice position? Not here. Yet you assume it is, once more completely not understanding the US while making pronouncements upon it.

And no, you waste of space, I called you a hypocrite because you beat the drum of you can't tell others what they can do with their own bodies, while TELLING OTHERS WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR OWN BODIES, but after a "reasonable time". I called you a hypocrite for being one.

Yet you act like this utter moron who can't see what is entirely in front of your face.

At least Ben has the decency to shift goalposts or redefine words, rather than say the same things over and over and not realize they completely contradict each other.