The Face of the 2nd Amendment

[Dr Strangelove]

He only said that because his PR department made him.

[Sava]

The NRA regrets its moment of sanity.

The National Rifle Association's appeal to Texas groups to dial back their practices of wielding assault weapons in local businesses was "a mistake," a top official in the powerhouse's lobbying arm said Tuesday, turning an about-face from what some saw as a politically savvy step toward the middle in the hot-button debate over gun rights.

"An alert went out that referred to this type of behavior as 'weird' or somehow not normal," Chris Cox, executive director of NRA policy, said during an interview on the organization's website. "It shouldn't have happened, and I've had a discussion with the staffer who wrote that piece and expressed his personal opinion. And our job isn't to criticize the lawful behavior of fellow gun owners.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nra-official-shaming-open-carry-texas-gun-groups-was-a-mistake/

No. You just criticize the lawful behavior of everyone else... including murder victims.... *******s! Go **** yourselves.

[MRT144]

Principle over practicality or rationality.

[Dinner]

Those people are too extreme, even for the NRA!


http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/...ry/#23911101=0

The NRA's sphincter starts to pucker up when they see poll numbers with over 80% of people opposing open carry of assault rifles and they become deathly afraid when they realize those extremists are becoming the public face of the gun movement. So it really was just self preservation on the NRA's part though you'll notice there were still a ton of gun nuts who went ape**** over this extremely mild rebuke from the NRA with them posting pictures of them cutting up their NRA cards and vowing to form a new, more extreme, gun nut group.

I know, I had to do a double take too as the idea that the NRA just isn't extreme enough seemed so crazy.

[Sava]

I actually admire the NRA quite a bit.

Taking money from crazies

[Dinner]

Something like 3/4ths plus percentage of their money actually comes from gun manufacturers rather than members. That's why you can see something like 80% of NRA members being for universal background checks plus wanting states to give criminal background data to the feds for said universal background checks but the NRA comes out dead set against it. This is because the gun makers don't want to lose a single sale even though they know those sales are going to criminals who legally aren't supposed to own guns.

It's moves like that which make the NRA such a ****stain of an organization.

[Sava]

Something like 3/4ths plus percentage of their money actually comes from gun manufacturers rather than members.

citation?

I am aware that they do receive a lot of money from manufacturers. But that seems high.

[regexcellent]

Something like 3/4ths plus percentage of their money actually comes from gun manufacturers rather than members. That's why you can see something like 80% of NRA members being for universal background checks plus wanting states to give criminal background data to the feds for said universal background checks but the NRA comes out dead set against it. This is because the gun makers don't want to lose a single sale even though they know those sales are going to criminals who legally aren't supposed to own guns.

It's moves like that which make the NRA such a ****stain of an organization.

That's not actually true, and the NRA's strength isn't in its money, it's in the votes it commands. In the Colorado recalls the NRA was outspent by Bloomberg.

[Felch]

That's why you can see something like 80% of NRA members being for universal background checks plus wanting states to give criminal background data to the feds for said universal background checks but the NRA comes out dead set against it.

I'm not saying that such a poll doesn't exist, but I would like to see exactly what questions were asked and how they were worded. I'm sure if you asked NRA members "Do you believe that the government should require background checks before you pass on a firearm to a family member?" far fewer than 80% would agree.

Like everything else, Yes, Minister explains it very well.

[Sava]

I'm not saying that such a poll doesn't exist, but I would like to see exactly what questions were asked and how they were worded. I'm sure if you asked NRA members "Do you believe that the government should require background checks before you pass on a firearm to a family member?" far fewer than 80% would agree.

I don't even believe the 80% (or whatever) number about NRA members supporting gun control.

Personally, I like the current gun owner stereotype. Last thing I wanna do is blow it up with facts.

[MrFun]

Those people are too extreme, even for the NRA!


http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/...ry/#23911101=0

The NRA has since retracted their statement.

[Sava]

Yeah. I said that. In the second post after that one.

[Dinner]

That's not actually true, and the NRA's strength isn't in its money, it's in the votes it commands. In the Colorado recalls the NRA was outspent by Bloomberg.

You're forgetting about the unlimited dark money which corporations can donate anonymously. That's where MOST of the campaign money comes from these days as the special interests still want to be as corrupt as ever but they don't want the blow back which comes when regular people find out which underhanded crap they've been financially under writing.

[Dinner]

I don't even believe the 80% (or whatever) number about NRA members supporting gun control.

Personally, I like the current gun owner stereotype. Last thing I wanna do is blow it up with facts.

It was 90% of Americans and 74% of NRA members so I was really close with my ~3/4ths comment.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/apr/04/lee-leffingwell/lee-leffingwell-says-polls-show-90-percent-america/

[Dinner]

http://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2013/apr/09/leffingwell-says-americans-nra-members-widely-supp/

Another one.