The Impossibility of Growth

[N35t0r]

Voluntary birth control as a method of population control is useless. All we'll do is breed self-control out of the gene pool in a few generations.

So I'm in favour of the opposite fat-based birth control Bring on the food!

[Lorizael]

Voluntary birth control as a method of population control is useless. All we'll do is breed self-control out of the gene pool in a few generations.

This sounds like an excellent plan to me. Less self-control = greater chance of nuclear annihilation = population control.

[Sava]

More food means fatter people. People will get so fat they can't get their penis out of their fat fold and into the vagina hidden in their SO's fat folds. PROBLEM SOLVED

It would take a concerted effort to achieve that level of fatness.

[N35t0r]

This sounds like an excellent plan to me. Less self-control = greater chance of nuclear annihilation = population control.

Also, Fallout

We need to start building Vaults.

[Fake Boris]

I know. It's obviously the case that the more wealthy a country is and the more successful it is at extracting and consuming resources, that the more that wealthy population breeds like bunnies and the larger their family sizes become. Any casual inspection will reveal this. I wonder if any of these doubters have ever visited a third world country and seen for themselves the tiny family sizes and astonishing prevalence of adults who choose to have no children in those places? There is a reason the population of the third world remains so small and is falling so far behind the burgeoning population sizes we see mushrooming in the first world.

Please examine US population since 1800
Consider longevity and not only birth rates

You are ****ing retarded

[N35t0r]

Please examine US population since 1800
Consider longevity and not only birth rates

You are ****ing retarded

So you are saying that the US became industrialized because people live longer? Not, like, the other way around?

[Fake Boris]

It's the alternative to no-till. Since no-till is reliant on herbicides, and GM presents the best possibility for future no-till crops, wanting to do away with herbicides and GMO either means you want more people starving/malnurished ... or that we till more than we are (or would have to in the future).

Unsubstantiated bull****.

Here is my astonishing proposal to combat malnutrition: PROPER DISTRIBUTION

wow!

Yes. Reducing yield per unit of area makes farming less intensive ... which means more area has to be farmed to get the same level of output.

Which is a stupid thing to do... which is why extensive agriculture is only done in regions where intensive farming would be difficult to impossible.

*ahem* You might have forgotten other benefits:

- partial forestation to prevent erosion
- less use of herbicides, pesticides, etc
- no GMOs necessary
- wildlife adapts more easily

[Fake Boris]

So you are saying that the US became industrialized because people live longer? Not, like, the other way around?

A cookie if you can spot where I said that

[Fake Boris]

Statements of the bleeding obvious, the outcomes of basic arithmetic, are treated as exotic and unpardonable distractions, while the impossible proposition by which we live is regarded as so sane and normal and unremarkable that it isn’t worthy of mention. That’s how you measure the depth of this problem: by our inability even to discuss it.

[Fake Boris]

Nobody is doing that.

We're attacking you because you don't support your bull**** assertions. Every time you are challenged, you run away.

So run away.

Go ahead kid, what assertions do you want me to support?

[Sava]

Unsubstantiated bull****.

Yes. Most (all) of your comments are.

[Sava]

Go ahead kid, what assertions do you want me to support?

Let's start with the first one I asked about. Provide me some information, any information, about Apple's supply chain.

And sorry... your thought experiments don't count.

[N35t0r]

A cookie if you can spot where I said that

Well, yes, sorry, for the past page and a half you've only been calling people retarded. I've been assuming it's because you think what they posted is wrong, but it might be just pathological.

[Fake Boris]

Sava:

I'll do it if you tell me:

1) what is it that you doubt about my claims and why

[N35t0r]

Let's start with the first one I asked about. Provide me some information, any information, about Apple's supply chain.

And sorry... your thought experiments don't count.

Then you can go on and prove that the current generation of iPods cost more resources to produce than the first one did.