The Impossibility of Growth

[AAAAAAAAH!]

We've been winning it ever since we mastered fire and exterminated the saber-tooth tigers.

Oh crap, the whole ecosystem must have collapsed when we did that.

[Fake Boris]

Yup yup yup!

Where do you think fossil fuels got their carbon? A bunch of plants sucked it out of the atmosphere hundreds of millions of years ago, they trapped it underground instead of releasing it after death, and now we're finally liberating it and putting it back where it belongs.

Exhibit C: A pattern that took a few dozen million years is equivalent to one that is taking a few dozen years

[Fake Boris]

Oh crap, the whole ecosystem must have collapsed when we did that.

Exhibit D: a campfire is equivalent to an oil refinery

[Bereta_Eder]

Carbon emmissions **** up the planet but there's developing technology to go ahead to Carbon Capture Storage.
Really, if money was not an objection, it would have been solved.
However, they are and it isn't.
But tehcnologies are advancing there.
It's amongst the top EU policies out there.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Exhibit D: a campfire is equivalent to an oil refinery

I was talking about hte poor sabre-toothed tigers... without which the ecosystem is doomed.

[Sava]

Think about the production chain of an iPod for a minute or two. And the lifecycle of the product.

Sure. I can think all I want. But everything I "think" of is bull**** because my "thoughts" aren't reality.

Neither are yours.

Why is it so hard for you to provide evidence for your bull**** assertions?

[Felch]

Exhibit C: A pattern that took a few dozen million years is equivalent to one that is taking a few dozen years

The time these events take is irrelevant. The point is that the carbon being released already existed in the atmosphere. It's just that during the Carboniferous period trees with a lot of lignin were impossible for the bacteria and other critters to break down and restore to the ecosystem. So a lot of carbon wound up sitting there undisturbed, then got buried, and now is being dug out and put to use by us.

Carbon is not pollution, it's a natural component of the Earth's atmosphere. Also, it is essential for plants!

[AAAAAAAAH!]

Does Oncle have an iPod? I hope he knows he's killing the planet.

[Felch]

Well he has a computer, and those involve a lot more waste than a measly little iPod.

[Bereta_Eder]

In glorious, erm, 720p.

[The Mad Monk]

So predictable.

It takes a few particles per million to destroy an ecosystem. Welcome to reality and science!

...which is why shipwrecks are always devoid of life.

[Fake Boris]

Sure. I can think all I want. But everything I "think" of is bull**** because my "thoughts" aren't reality.

Neither are yours.

Why is it so hard for you to provide evidence for your bull**** assertions?

Sorry but you're astonishingly retarded.

You extract raw materials from all around the world, ship them all around the world for first transformation, ship transformed materials from all around the world to China for second transformation, ship final product to the US for consumption, ship electronic garbage to Africa.

[Sava]

...which is why shipwrecks are always devoid of life.

ecosystems also are dynamic systems

They don't get destroyed, per se... they change.

[Fake Boris]

The time these events take is irrelevant. The point is that the carbon being released already existed in the atmosphere. It's just that during the Carboniferous period trees with a lot of lignin were impossible for the bacteria and other critters to break down and restore to the ecosystem. So a lot of carbon wound up sitting there undisturbed, then got buried, and now is being dug out and put to use by us.

Carbon is not pollution, it's a natural component of the Earth's atmosphere. Also, it is essential for plants!

Time is relevant you cretin since it affects CONCENTRATION

[Sava]

Sorry but you're astonishingly retarded.

You extract raw materials from all around the world, ship them all around the world for first transformation, ship transformed materials from all around the world to China for second transformation, ship final product to the US for consumption, ship electronic garbage to Africa.

And still not a single source. You are absolutely useless and do more harm to your "cause" via your own ignorance, incompetence, laziness, and stupidity.