Israeli bigotry

[Berzerker]

the 'fact' Jews murdered the son of God didn't help

[Lorizael]

Good point, but Christianity isn't responsible for genocides of ww2

Yeah, that was Hitler. Am I missing something?

[Lorizael]

the 'fact' Jews murdered the son of God didn't help

I've never understood this. Jesus not being sacrificed = no washing away of sin = no salvation = no point in Christianity.

[Sava]

Good point, but Christianity isn't responsible for genocides of ww2

"let it happen" versus "made it happen"

[Ecthy]

Yeah, that was Hitler. Am I missing something?

You don't seem to be familiar with the resident national conservative Eastern European

[Lorizael]

I only remember frogs.

[Sava]

Remember the Frogamo!

[molly bloom]

Yeah, that was Hitler. Am I missing something?

No, he was brought up a Roman Catholic and the Nazi state had a national Christian church.

[Lorizael]

Christianity isn't responsible for the Holocaust. Hitler and the Nazis are.

[molly bloom]

Christianity isn't responsible for the Holocaust. Hitler and the Nazis are.

Christianity ? You mean the same one with a history of anti-semitism, pogroms and forced conversions of Jews ?

That Christianity ?

Or are you thinking of a cuddly Jew-friendly version ?

[Lorizael]

Christianity is responsible for bad things, yes. But the Holocaust was perpetrated by Hitler and the Nazis, who were influenced but not defined by Christianity.

[molly bloom]

Christianity is responsible for bad things, yes. But the Holocaust was perpetrated by Hitler and the Nazis, who were influenced but not defined by Christianity.

'Influenced'. As in brought up in the Christian faith, in officially Christian countries, in Christian educational establishments, steeped in centuries of Christian anti-semitic traditions.

Yeah, I can see how they'd easily avoid any anti-Jewish sentiments.

Some who visit Germany for the first time assume that the persecution of the Jews in Europe began with Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. Not so. The Jews have been chased out of Europe, murdered and punished with huge taxation rates for more than 1,000 years in Europe. In Regensburg there is a visible example of this dark side of European history.
It is the stone sculpture of Jews suckling from a pig.

The Jewish prohibition of pork comes from Torah, in the book Leviticus, Chapter 11, verses 2 through 8. The arrangement of Jews surrounding, suckling, and having intercourse with the animal (sometimes regarded as the devil), is a mockery of Judaism and example of antisemitic propaganda.

The image appears in the Middle Ages, mostly in carvings on church or cathedral walls, often outside where it could be seen from the street (for example at Wittenberg and Regensburg), but also in other forms. The earliest appearance seems to be on the underside of a wooden choir-stall seat in Cologne Cathedral, dating to about 1210. The earliest example in stone dates to ca. 1230 and is located in the cloister of the cathedral at Brandenburg. In about 1470 the image appeared in woodcut form, and thereafter was often copied in popular prints, often with antisemitic commentary. A wall painting on the bridge tower of Frankfurt am Main, constructed between 1475 and 1507 near the gateway to the Jewish ghetto and demolished in 1801, was an especially notorious example and included a scene of the ritual murder of Simon of Trent.

As an unrelated development, during the Nazi period, Judensau was used as an insulting appellation in German. Although this word is identical in form to the name of the image, it is historically separate and morphologically opposite, and translates as “Jewish sow” rather than “Jews’ sow”.

The stone carving of the Jewish Pig is on the south side of the Regensburg Cathedral, facing the former Jewish ghetto. That ghetto was cleared inn 1519 in order to build a church. More than 500 Jews were expelled.

http://www.europeanfocus.com/regensburg-cathedral-and-the-judensau/

Presumably by existing for most of their pre-adult Nazi lives in opaque, hermetically sealed environments.

[Sava]

Christianity is responsible for bad things, yes. But the Holocaust was perpetrated by Hitler and the Nazis, who were influenced but not defined by Christianity.

from Mein Kampf

I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.

and: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

[Lorizael]

I don't know how else to say this. Christianity is a concept. Hitler and the Nazis were people. They perpetrated the Holocaust.

[Sava]

I don't know how else to say this. Christianity is a concept. Hitler and the Nazis were people. They perpetrated the Holocaust.

Concepts can't commit acts?

You better tell this guy:

Christianity is responsible for bad things