Political quiz

[Hauldren Collider]

lmao at the UK being a secular country

[Sava]

If you think your brain is not acting on the basis of reward when you make ethical decisions, you're deluding yourself.

For some, the reward for doing good is:

"HEYY LOOK AT ME, I DID THIS AND THIS AND THIS... AND I"M AWESOME!!!!! NOW LETS PRAY TO GOD ABOUT HOW AWESOME I AM. OMIGOD, LOOK AT THE PEOPLE NOT PRAYING. THEY ARENT AWESOM. BECAUZS I"M AWESOME AND I PRAY. HAHA MY BELIEFS COME FROM GOD. I"M SUCH A GOOD BOY!!!!! MAYBE FATHER DOLAN WILL GIMME HIS **** LATER"

[kentonio]

Isn't it interesting to know Cameroon's view and influences?

From a US perspective you can be both a Christian country and a secular country. I understand that for europeans, it is mixed up with the issue of state churches/etc, but in that case you also have a state church...

From wikipedia:
Christianity (59.5%)
Non-religious (25.7%)
Not stated (7.2%)
Islam (4.4%)
Hinduism (1.3%)
Other religions (1.8%)

JM

Gosh, you mean the same % figure of Christians that I already posted myself previously in the thread?

As for the US perspective, you're not a secular country despite your constitution. If you were your politicians wouldn't have to talk about God every election campaign. Remind me how many openly non-christian representatives you have in congress again?

[kentonio]

lmao at the UK being a secular country

lmao at the dumb little rich kid who thinks he knows **** about a country he's never visited and knows nothing about.

[Lorizael]

For some, the reward for doing good is:

"HEYY LOOK AT ME, I DID THIS AND THIS AND THIS... AND I"M AWESOME!!!!! NOW LETS PRAY TO GOD ABOUT HOW AWESOME I AM. OMIGOD, LOOK AT THE PEOPLE NOT PRAYING. THEY ARENT AWESOM. BECAUZS I"M AWESOME AND I PRAY. HAHA MY BELIEFS COME FROM GOD. I"M SUCH A GOOD BOY!!!!! MAYBE FATHER DOLAN WILL GIMME HIS **** LATER"

/me shrugs. I guess. Next time I see someone doing this, I'll get angry about it?

[Sava]

If the silent prayer of others starts to piss you off, I'll know I've made a positive impact on another person.

[Jon Miller]

As for the US perspective, you're not a secular country despite your constitution. If you were your politicians wouldn't have to talk about God every election campaign. Remind me how many openly non-christian representatives you have in congress again?

The thread wasn't interesting for a bit.

There are 4 persons in the senate who are openingly non-christian. Which is less than the population, but remember the 80/20 rule.

JM

[C0ckney]

There's certainly an element of that, but there's also a real situation whereby millions of people have these experiences in their real lives, that aren't represented by the statistics (how do you calculate how many people are successfully defrauding exactly?), and are then told it's all fantasy. If government had moved to deal with the problems without resorting to demonization, we'd all be a lot better off now.

we don't know exactly, and what's more we can't possibly know. that is we have to rely on what we do know, the statistics, rather than feelings based on our own experiences. my argument isn't that there is no problem with fraud, but that the problem is a very trivial one, and that the solutions adopted are really a thinly disguised attack on the poor.

No arguments from me about that problem, although I think there are less radical solutions. We need a massive clampdown on buy to let, a rise in minimum wage and the complete destruction of zero hour contracts. That'd go a decent way towards helping.

could you explain in a little more detail how you think the bolded items would help. it's very unclear to me how treating these symptoms will help, if the underlying context remains the same.

I was very anti-EU until not that long ago. Withdrawing from the EU now however would carry with it some pretty terrible outcomes. A huge trade hit, massive disruption of the millions of British people living and working on the continent and a wide swathe of other disruption.

well that all depends on what arrangements are worked out. there are countries outside the EU which trade freely with it and whose citizens enjoy free movement.

[kentonio]

The thread wasn't interesting for a bit.

There are 4 persons in the senate who are openingly non-christian. Which is less than the population, but remember the 80/20 rule.

JM

What about the House? Wiki describes the US religious affiliations as 'The majority of Americans (73%) identify themselves as Christians and about 20% have no religious affiliation.'

Yet pan to the House and we see Christian denominations accounting for 90.3%, Jewish for 7.3% and other religions for 1.4%. 1.1% refused to state. 0% atheists.

So the 20% with no religion are represented by who exactly? You call that secular? Are any of those senators you mentioned non-religious?

[DinoDoc]

lmao at the dumb ... kid who thinks he knows **** about a country he's never visited and knows nothing about.

The lack of self awareness here is stunning.

[Sava]

NO U!

[Imran Siddiqui]

As for the US perspective, you're not a secular country despite your constitution. If you were your politicians wouldn't have to talk about God every election campaign. Remind me how many openly non-christian representatives you have in congress again?

Remind me which of the United States or United Kingdom has a state Church?

[kentonio]

Remind me which of the United States or United Kingdom has a state Church?

Remind me which has citizens who still actually go to church.

[Sava]

I hate both of you.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Remind me which has citizens who still actually go to church.

The better country, obvious