UK finds new fuel source to undercut Russian stranglehold on Europe

[onodera]

Ilse Koch agrees with Onodera.

I also do not smoke. JUST LIKE HITLER!

[AAAAAAAAH!]

You people are sick and don't even realize how immoral it is to use dead human bodies for profit. That's just immoral for any human being, regardless of his religion.
Capitalism and post-modern has screwed you all entierly. A century ago such thing would have caused wide outrage on the West, 'cause you were Christians back then. Now you are obviously not. You are just human robots without any moral and understanding of what is good and what is wrong.

We've always been organic machines. Science has simply given us a better understanding of reality.

[kentonio]

Europe has gone mad.

Quite so. Maybe you Russians should stay on your side of it, as far away from us crazy folk as possible.

A century ago such thing would have caused wide outrage on the West, 'cause you were Christians back then. Now you are obviously not.

You're quite right, most of us Europeans aren't Christians anymore.

[Serb]

Are you sure about that?

It's not the same as burning her body to reduce your electricity bill.

[Serb]

I also do not smoke. JUST LIKE HITLER!

Any other similarities you have with Hitler? Vegetarian? Lack of one ball?

[Serb]

We've always been organic machines. Science has simply given us a better understanding of reality.

Speak for yourself.

[Serb]

Quite so. Maybe you Russians should stay on your side of it, as far away from us crazy folk as possible.

We are trying.

You're quite right, most of us Europeans aren't Christians anymore.

That's obvious.

[kentonio]

We are trying.

Really? By invading your way slowly westwards? Why not go invade North Korea, those guys really are fascists.

That's obvious.

Some of us thing that's a good thing. I'm pretty surprised that you commie types don't agree.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

That a terrible idea. The water content's too high.

[onodera]

Speak for yourself.

If science hasn't given it to you, that's your problem.

[Serb]

Really?

Really. We don't teach our children that some things that have been considered a sins for eons for a good reason, now are absolutely normal.

(go ahead trolls, release your fury)

Some of us thing that's a good thing. I'm pretty surprised that you commie types don't agree.

Jesus was the first communist on this planet.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

That makes sense. If you disagree with Jesus you go to a gulag (Hell) when you die.

[DinoDoc]

Serb, you're going crazy. You shouldn't take that much steroids. A human body is just a human body.

It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks incinerator to power our society.

[Serb]

Yeah, first they use human bodies to power up the society, then they use dead human bodies to feed you, then one day you start to believe there are no nazis in Ukraine, and then BANG!



THE MATRIX HAS YOU!

[notyoueither]

Here's the thing ladies, there's a difference between what you did (immediately freak out at the idea that a human body could be cremated and the energy actually used for something useful) and the idea that you should be free to do anything with human bodies regardless of the effects on the family and loved ones.

Like Guy, I'd be against this too if it was something the families didn't want, however all you've done is display some tedious conventional view about human remains somehow being sacred. I can't remember if you're an athiest or religious Reg, but in your brothers case it's pretty silly to claim to be athiest and yet attach some deep meaning to what is basically nothing more than a pile of bones and tissue which will soon decay and decompose anyway.

You don't need to be religious to attach a high level of importance to human beings and to treat human remains as special.

Human dignity, however, is the product of Judeo-Christian morality (as Nietzsche rightly points out). Especially as it comes to human remains. I would think a wholly atheistic morality would have a tough time giving respect for the remains of people - I guess it could come up with some version of human dignity which would end up similar to the Judeo-Christian ethic (not saying that Judaism or Christianity has always lived up to the ideal, but the concept of human dignity arises due to the belief that we are all created by one God and therefore deserve the respect owed to being one of God's image-bearing creation).

No, it's not.

I'm talking about as it applies to the United States [where y'all live] (as part of the 'West', which also would include the UK).

There is a reason that 'respecting the remains of the dead' in every culture was linked with religion of that culture. Without some sort of religious faith, what possible meaning is there in human remains? If you believe humans have value in their consciousness, how does that apply when that consciousness leaves them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial

Most normal people I know value humans highly because they want to be valued themselves. Although the Golden Rule is a nice statement the idea predates the speaker by quite some time I'm going to bet.

Treating the dead with dignity and respect is part of us being social animals.

1. I'm not an OB.

2. If the parents wanted to bury their fetus, and they were denied that opportunity, that is an outrage. If they didn't want to bury the fetus, I don't have a problem with this.

I'd like to agree with this, but I can see the POV where human remains should be treated as different from refuse for the simple fact they are human. Breaking down the social barriers to mistreating people isn't something I'll go along with generally.