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  • #46
    To be honest, it's not the kind of thing that most people would want to deal with after an abortion. Questioning patients about how they want their fetus dealt with is a pretty potentially traumatic thing to add into the mix. If it's something people ask about it and are decieved about then that's terrible, but if the question never comes up then people being consulted about after the fact is pretty crappy. If people care that much then they'll ask, and if they're too upset to think about it, then dealing with it in a sensible way is not a bad thing.

    We're talking about cremation here, not lampshades made of skin. If the energy wasn't being used, then would anyone even bat an eyelid if the story had been 'human remains cremated in hospital'?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      I don't know kentonio. Why DOES it matter what we do to people's remains, kentonio? Would you be okay with your parent's dead bodies being burned to heat a hospital? (If yes, do you think your neighbor would be okay with that happening to their parents?)
      "And if yes, do you think their neighbor would be okay with that happening to their parents? And if yes, do you think their neighbor would be okay with that happening to their parents? And if yes, do you think their neighbor would be okay with that happening to their parents? And if yes, do you think their neighbor would be okay with that happening to their parents?

      Look, just tell me when you get to a 'no,' so I can be right."
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #48
        Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
        Human dignity is a thing even in Europe, yes?
        Human dignity, however, is the product of Judeo-Christian morality (as Nietzsche rightly points out). Especially as it comes to human remains. I would think a wholly atheistic morality would have a tough time giving respect for the remains of people - I guess it could come up with some version of human dignity which would end up similar to the Judeo-Christian ethic (not saying that Judaism or Christianity has always lived up to the ideal, but the concept of human dignity arises due to the belief that we are all created by one God and therefore deserve the respect owed to being one of God's image-bearing creation).
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #49
          Tibetan sky burial is clearly the way to go.
          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
          "Capitalism ho!"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Thoth View Post
            Dead bodies are dead bodies.

            If you're going to cremate anyway, why not get a bit of electricity as a bonus?
            Now you are rapidly moving from a deer to a nazi in my list.

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            • #51
              wrong thread

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              • #52
                Ok, what's next motherf*ckers? Feeding your pigs with dead babbies to get some pork?
                Sick bastards.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                  Human dignity, however, is the product of Judeo-Christian morality (as Nietzsche rightly points out). Especially as it comes to human remains. I would think a wholly atheistic morality would have a tough time giving respect for the remains of people - I guess it could come up with some version of human dignity which would end up similar to the Judeo-Christian ethic (not saying that Judaism or Christianity has always lived up to the ideal, but the concept of human dignity arises due to the belief that we are all created by one God and therefore deserve the respect owed to being one of God's image-bearing creation).
                  Judeo-Christian morality does not have a monopoly on respecting the remains of the dead. It is something that is present in every culture, or nearly every one.

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                  • #54
                    Brits are nazis.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                      Judeo-Christian morality does not have a monopoly on respecting the remains of the dead. It is something that is present in every culture, or nearly every one.
                      I'm talking about as it applies to the United States [where y'all live] (as part of the 'West', which also would include the UK).

                      There is a reason that 'respecting the remains of the dead' in every culture was linked with religion of that culture. Without some sort of religious faith, what possible meaning is there in human remains? If you believe humans have value in their consciousness, how does that apply when that consciousness leaves them?


                      Intentional burial, particularly with grave goods, may be one of the earliest detectable forms of religious practice since, as Philip Lieberman suggests, it may signify a "concern for the dead that transcends daily life."[1]
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #56
                        It's too bad this wasn't entirely the remains of Irish being used to power UK buildings. Then we could have too ghoulish parodies going on at once.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #57
                          If you cremate someone why does it matter if the process generates electricity or not?
                          [Pets] can't be reasoned with when their instincts kick in and they remember that they're animals. Especially dogs which are genetically 100% wolves. - Al B. Sure!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            Jews aren't people -> use their skin for drawstring lamps
                            Fetuses aren't people -> use their dead bodies to generate electricity

                            You can say this is over the top and you wouldn't necessarily be wrong, but this whole story is so surreal and over the top I'm not sure it matters.
                            Do you have a problem with harvesting dead people's organs?
                            [Pets] can't be reasoned with when their instincts kick in and they remember that they're animals. Especially dogs which are genetically 100% wolves. - Al B. Sure!

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                              No, you're not. If you take the position that human remains are not in any way sacred, then it follows necessarily that making lampshades and shrunken heads out of the people you murder isn't any worse than just murdering them.

                              You're going to have to come up with a more nuanced position to justify the cremation power but not the lampshades.
                              lampshades made out of human skin is a lot creepier than electricity.
                              [Pets] can't be reasoned with when their instincts kick in and they remember that they're animals. Especially dogs which are genetically 100% wolves. - Al B. Sure!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Serb View Post
                                Ok, what's next motherf*ckers? Feeding your pigs with dead babbies to get some pork?
                                Sick bastards.
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