Arizona's new anti-gay law.

[Felch]

This is a real problem people. It's easy to be supportive of some new restriction when you're attacking a boogeyman. Take anti-bullying laws for instance. It's sad when kids kill themselves over online bullying, so people want to pass laws to make that illegal. What's to keep those laws from being used by the rich and powerful to silence their critics? Do you think that rich and powerful people won't be able to afford expensive lawyers, who can twist and subvert anti-bullying laws into universal gag orders on all criticism?

I realize that's not the same thing as this situation, but it comes down to the same basic principle of freedom. The price of freedom is *******s. It's an unavoidable price. The only way to get rid of *******s is to get rid of freedom. Is that worth it to you? Why not just rise above them and live your own life?

[Imran Siddiqui]

This isn't the government singling them out. This is private individuals making their own decisions about what to do with their time. I realize that law school has turned your brain into mush, but you need to accept that the government is still going to treat everybody the same even if bakers and barbers are *******s. No one is being made into a second class citizen by this law. No one.

So private individuals who own hotels and bakeries can discriminate against people due to color or gender? Do tell.

[Felch]

You're okay with a mother killing her own unborn children in the name of privacy. How is "refusal to bake a cake" worse than that? Just how twisted is your idea of privacy?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Am I?

And are these women opening up a business for the creation of unborn children, putting what they have to offer in the public sphere?

[Felch]

Am I?

Well, I don't know. Let's see what the next thing you say is...

And are these women opening up a business for the creation of unborn children, putting what they have to offer in the public sphere?

Yeah, it looks to me like you are okay with mothers killing their children. And it also looks to me like you think it's okay to kill your kids, but it's not okay to refuse to bake a cake.

You're twisted. Seriously.

[Felch]

How can you read the Bible and not take away the idea that God loves the weak? Who's weaker than the unborn?

[Imran Siddiqui]

The utter idiocy of claiming a right to privacy when you are hawking your wares in public is astounding.

[Imran Siddiqui]

When mothers actually kill their children, its not ok. Of course embryos don't equal children. Trying to turn a discrimination thread into an abortion thread is hilarious, btw. Ben like in attempt to change the subject to deflect the fact you lost.

[Felch]

My right to privacy doesn't end just because I engage in commerce. If I sell old CDs on eBay, can the government now search my home without a warrant?

[Felch]

When mothers actually kill their children, its not ok. Of course embryos don't equal children.

Of course not. It's not like all human embryos are human or anything. After all, that embryo might grow up into a pumpkin or something.

[Imran Siddiqui]

My right to privacy doesn't end just because I engage in commerce. If I sell old CDs on eBay, can the government now search my home without a warrant?

Is a CD shop allowed to refuse to sell to blacks?

Is your home search connected to the CDs in any significant way? Does it concern the part where you put yourself in the public sphere? Are your strawmen in the private sphere as well

[Imran Siddiqui]

Of course not. It's not like all human embryos are human or anything. After all, that embryo might grow up into a pumpkin or something.

So you are admitting you've lost the discrimination argument. Cool

[Felch]

The utter idiocy of claiming a right to privacy when you are hawking your wares in public is astounding.

Let's say that you make web sites. Let's say you use social networks to hawk your "wares" (in this case, labor and expertise). Are you obliged to make a neo-Nazi website if they try to hire you?

Is a lawyer obligated to take any client who walks into his office?

Why is a baker any different?

[Felch]

Is a CD shop allowed to refuse to sell to blacks?

I'm cool with that. The current law obviously says it's not cool, but laws can change.

Is your home search connected to the CDs in any significant way? Does it concern the part where you put yourself in the public sphere? Are your strawmen in the private sphere as well

You're the one that said I no longer had a right to privacy. I'll let you answer these questions.

So you are admitting you've lost the discrimination argument. Cool

No, I'm just showcasing your hypocrisy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Deliberately obtuse?

Go back to protected classes discussion in this thread.