Arizona's new anti-gay law.

[DinoDoc]

And are these women opening up a business for the creation of unborn children, putting what they have to offer in the public sphere?

What does Justice Blackman's ****tiest legal opinion described by a former clerk as an example of constitutional interpretation and judicial method that borders on the indefensible have to do with this thread?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Blackmun.

And I'm not sure why abortion is here either... except some Catholics think it means something here.

[Felch]

Deliberately obtuse?

Is a lawyer allowed to refuse a client?

Go back to protected classes discussion in this thread.

**** protected classes. I don't believe they should exist. Everyone should be equal before the law. Is that clear enough for you?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Like I pointed out before, you are entitled to your opinion but the vast majority don't agree, so suck it.

[Felch]

Blackmun.

And I'm not sure why abortion is here either... except some Catholics think it means something here.

Because it shows that you're not actually concerned with protecting the weak. Your only interest is in keeping up with leftist trends. And I know this because your positions lack any moral consistency.

[Felch]

Like I pointed out before, you are entitled to your opinion but the vast majority don't agree, so suck it.

Is a lawyer allowed to refuse to take a client?

It's pretty tragic that "Everyone should be equal before the law" is a minority opinion. You all are a disgrace.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You guys act like no group has ever been ostracized before. America was founded, in part, by people who didn't fit in elsewhere. And even after the colonial period, plenty of people moved west and founded Utopian communities to try to live a more fulfilling life. The problem with freedom is that you're stuck putting up with *******s. The upside is that you're not stuck with those *******s. You have the freedom to move on to greener pastures.

Feel free to move! I'll help you pack (not really though).

[MrFun]

Why not just compare yourself to jews in Nazi Germany?

Or gay people in Nazi Germany.

[Felch]

Feel free to move! I'll help you pack (not really though).

If it gets to hot in the kitchen, I'll move.

Until then... can a lawyer refuse to take on a client?

[DinoDoc]

Or gay people in Nazi Germany.

Response redacted by Aeson.

[rah]

Until then... can a lawyer refuse to take on a client?

Yes, as long as it's on an individual basis and not globally for reasons of race, or sex.

[Felch]

So all a lawyer has to do is say "No thank you" individually to every black person who walks in, and he's in the clear?

It's funny to me because legal representation is a Constitutional right, while wedding cakes aren't.

I guess Imran's holier than thou horse**** only applies to people who aren't him.

[Felch]

I mean, it's not like an officer of the court has put himself in the public sphere or anything.

[MrFun]

No one is being made into a second class citizen by this law. No one.

You have a very, very short memory. Until Defense of Marriage Act came under serious challenge through courts, and until U.S. Supreme Court overturned a part of it, gay people were (and still are) very much made to be second class citizens by either the state governments or the federal government.

Until recently, when Don't Ask Don't Tell was blotted out, the federal government made gay people second class citizens when serving in the military.

In something like half or more than half of the states in America, state governments sanction making gay people second class citizens, because in those states I'm referring to, it is perfectly legal to fire someone for being gay. This probably applies to housing in those states, as well.

To trivialize this modern day civil rights struggle as about "forcing someone to bake you a cake," is a fine example of ignorance.

Not to mention that the Republican representatives in Arizona never even had to bother trying to pass that hate bill, because that wedding case incident/case was in New Mexico, where gay people ARE legally protected as citizens in that state.

[rah]

Yes he's in the clear as long as it can't be proved that every black person was turned away.
At least he wouldn't be paying to defend himself.

And in all honesty if the baker turned down a gay request claiming the guy was a douche and show that he had previously baked cakes for other gays, he would be in the clear also.