Lesbian Feminist Whores Sexually Molest and Physically Attack Catholic Boys

[N35t0r]

Um, anything else would be up to the judiciary? Either a federal prosecutor or one of the damaged parties bringing up charges. That's not up to the government/police.

[DinoDoc]

I'm curious about how this is playing in Argentina.

[Dr Strangelove]

For hate crimes and sexual assault? Wow.

What do you suggest as appropriate punishment?

[N35t0r]

I'm curious about how this is playing in Argentina.

What? Playing? It barely made the news, let alone any front page...

This is part of a sort of national women's summit, and the more radical groups do stuf flike this every year, mostly those that belong to pro-government groups (since the Government dislikes the RCC, they know the police won't do anything about it). Also, attendants to the summit (which deals with women's rights in general, right now the more pressing affair is human trafficking and sexual slavery) are constantly heckled and attacked, with stones thrown at the buses they use to get to whichever city holds the meeting, to the point of breaking windows, as well as at the schools and hotels they spend the nights in.

[Dr Strangelove]

Who is doing the heckling and stone throwing?

[N35t0r]

Masked people. The organizes blame people-trafficking mafias mostly. Nobody investigates.

[molly bloom]

Who is doing the heckling and stone throwing?

Catholic Priests ? Seminarians ? Nuns ?

[C0ckney]

One does not cheer for or defend violence for "social advances". At best, we understand why violence may be used because those who are using such violence are voiceless otherwise (a la Nelson Mandela, PLO, etc). This is not the case here.

i disagree. if you look at groups such as the suffragettes in the UK, they committed violent acts, destroying property and hurting people, but that didn't make their cause any less righteous. it depends on the context. it's also worth pointing out that there are different sorts and levels of violence. what happened here is that the protesters ruffed up a few bused in boys (who belong to an extreme conservative catholic group, which promotes anti-semitism). no one died, i don't think anyone was even seriously injured. obviously, if they'd machined gunned a dozen of them or something, then i wouldn't support them.

On your secondary paragraph, it depends if you are trying to force the debate into that question. Abortion rights are FAR more than "do women have control over their own bodies". That is the reason why most countries put limits in the 3rd trimester. There is another life to contend with there. Making into such a simplistic question is completely the wrong thing to do.

of course i'm simplifying, but essentially it boils to a question of rights. the rights of the mother and the rights of a foetus. in most western countries, we prefer the rights of the mother up until a certain point (the third trimester, 22 weeks etc.), and afterwards we say that the foetus becomes a person and gains human rights. in some countries, though, the mother's rights are denied at any point.

there's also a difference between reasonable regulation and an outright ban. take alcohol for example. we have no problem with age restrictions, a licensing regime for its sale and suchlike. however, everyone would consider a complete ban on it to be madness.

[C0ckney]

c0ckney can no longer complain when I advocate the overthrow of democratically elected communist governments.

it's amusing that you think the two things are in any way similar.

[Patroklos]

Is pathetically self serving that you can't see that they are not.

[Dr Strangelove]

Masked people. The organizes blame people-trafficking mafias mostly. Nobody investigates.

Could it be the same young men who linked arms in front of the cahedral?

[dannubis]

Kid, it is good to see your balls are still safely tucked away in the purse of your ex.

[Imran Siddiqui]

i disagree. if you look at groups such as the suffragettes in the UK, they committed violent acts, destroying property and hurting people, but that didn't make their cause any less righteous. it depends on the context. it's also worth pointing out that there are different sorts and levels of violence. what happened here is that the protesters ruffed up a few bused in boys (who belong to an extreme conservative catholic group, which promotes anti-semitism). no one died, i don't think anyone was even seriously injured. obviously, if they'd machined gunned a dozen of them or something, then i wouldn't support them.

People will generally not support groups who engage in violent acts. The suffragettes likely had a harder road after committing violence. This is something that Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr. learned. Violence in reaction to non-violence is especially egregious and these ridiculous people just made the Catholic Church look sympathetic - think on that.

of course i'm simplifying, but essentially it boils to a question of rights. the rights of the mother and the rights of a foetus. in most western countries, we prefer the rights of the mother up until a certain point (the third trimester, 22 weeks etc.), and afterwards we say that the foetus becomes a person and gains human rights. in some countries, though, the mother's rights are denied at any point.

there's also a difference between reasonable regulation and an outright ban. take alcohol for example. we have no problem with age restrictions, a licensing regime for its sale and suchlike. however, everyone would consider a complete ban on it to be madness.

And what is the 'ban' in Argentina? Would you support violent acts against organizations who advocate for a complete ban on alcohol? That would obviously be madness. As is violence against people peacefully desiring a ban to abortion. If you believe violence is ok, then you don't really believe in democracy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

it's amusing that you think the two things are in any way similar.

They are far more similar than you are willing to admit. Violence in the sake of political disagreement is anti-democracy to its core.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally Posted by Kidicious

For hate crimes and sexual assault? Wow.

What do you suggest as appropriate punishment?

Not going to answer?