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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider
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angola and the congo are two examples that spring to mind. there were other cold war conflicts where the US supplied weapons and gave other support to one side."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
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You keep losing because you're traditionally ****ing awful at hearts and minds campaigns.Originally posted by regexcellent View PostComment
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Yeah, ken. **** this nation building bull****. Go in, kill the enemy, and then leave.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I didn't say hearts and minds was bad, I said you're bad at it. There's a difference.Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostComment
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I'm saying that we should play to our strengths. Take Afghanistan as an example. What actual nation is there for us to build up?Last edited by DinoDoc; October 24, 2013, 14:58.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Nation building was wrong in '93, and it's wrong now. You are not going to "civilize" a people at the end of a bayonet unless you are far more ruthless at it than we are.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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And we, rightly, don't want to be that ruthless, which is why we never win.
Here's what the US military is good at: Blowing **** up and killing bad guys. End of list. They have no business trying to bring a backwards, violent culture up to speed.
Before trolls of "US is backwards and violent"--yeah no. We're not the taliban. Nice try.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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If we're bad at it, nobody is good at it. Don't claim the British are any better because there isn't a British empire anymore and Malaya was just playing with all the ****ing cheat codes on; the population was already in the British camp anyway.Originally posted by kentonio View PostComment
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So, we're supposed to dislike Israel, not because of recent or current events, but due to an isolated incident from the '80s? Should I assume NASA is hopelessly incompetent on account of the Challenger mission?Comment
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Yes.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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Hey, they seem to be doing their (useless, irrelevant, overpriced) job pretty well lately.Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostComment
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For all intents and purposes, the only people we could civilize at the end of a bayonette are other first world nations that took a risk and lost and want to get back to their comfy lives making pretzels and spatzel and weiss bier.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburgerComment
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It's just another data point...Originally posted by Elok View Post"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburgerComment
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The world needs more spaetzle. More pretzels would not hurt either. Don't really care about the beer, I like wine and scotch.Originally posted by MRT144 View PostComment
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