Pope sends direct message to Ben

[Bereta_Eder]

In some decades the catholic church will be like the church of england in this respect

[Bereta_Eder]

Again, the teaching cannot and will not change.

If that was the case and everything was static, the Pope would not have made the comment.
(who, btw I thought was infallible, or has that changed too?)

[Ben Kenobi]

The pope is being very clear that he wants the church to stop making gays feel unwelcome

What you aren't getting is that everyone is a sinner. He wants the Church to welcome sinners so that they can repent.

and to embrace them as valued members of the church.

If they repent, I have no issue with them. The key point is repentence - to turn AWAY from their sins. I don't see why their sins should be different from everyone elses.

The fact that you continue to treat them badly just shows that you don't care about the popes translation of gods wishes

I care about those who are willfully misrepresenting the pope. It seems to matter very little what the Pope actually says is not what you claim he says.

[Ben Kenobi]

As far as Jesus is concerned, hatred for others is a much bigger sin than homosexuality

And condemning someone to hell by teaching error is even worse still.

[Ben Kenobi]

So if in two years time, the synod votes that gays are groovy, the catholic church will follow that.

Again, the teaching cannot and will not change.

[Sava]

As far as Jesus is concerned, hatred for others is a much bigger sin than homosexuality. The Pope understands this.

[kentonio]

The butthurt is strong.

One - the Pope supports the synod and the outcome.
Two - the synod supports the Pope.
Three- they synod and the Pope both support Catholic doctrine that homosexuality is sinful and disordered.

Not only do you misrepresent Catholic doctrine, you misrepresent the pope as well as failing to understand how the Magisterium works.

God is clear. Homosexuality is wrong. Nothing you write will change that.

The pope is being very clear that he wants the church to stop making gays feel unwelcome and to embrace them as valued members of the church. The fact that you continue to treat them badly just shows that you don't care about the popes translation of gods wishes and are so arrogant that you think you know better. This is in no way a surprise to anyone.

[Bereta_Eder]

So if in two years time, the synod votes that gays are groovy, the catholic church will follow that.
Seeing as there probably never was a proclamation this progressive before, I'd say things are moving along nicely.

[Ben Kenobi]

So the synod didn't agree with what the pope wanted, but he wants the document published anyway. I guess you're not the only heathen in the church Ben, a number of bishops are also refusing to follow the papal way. It's a shame that you disregard the popes wishes which presumably are also gods wishes.

The butthurt is strong.

One - the Pope supports the synod and the outcome.
Two - the synod supports the Pope.
Three- they synod and the Pope both support Catholic doctrine that homosexuality is sinful and disordered.

Not only do you misrepresent Catholic doctrine, you misrepresent the pope as well as failing to understand how the Magisterium works.

God is clear. Homosexuality is wrong. Nothing you write will change that.

[kentonio]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6008300.html

Taste it, *****es.

So the synod didn't agree with what the pope wanted, but he wants the document published anyway. I guess you're not the only heathen in the church Ben, a number of bishops are also refusing to follow the papal way. It's a shame that you disregard the popes wishes which presumably are also gods wishes.

[Ben Kenobi]

No. Socrates answer the question with a question as the answer. That is, he answered the question indirectly. That's not what your Pope did. He simply did not answer the question.

Questioned answered.

[Nikolai]

Catholic bishops, keeping the RCC safe since 30 AD.

[Ben Kenobi]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/18/catholic-bishops-gays_n_6008300.html

Taste it, *****es.

[Kidlicious]

Nikolai, you have a point about the question being provocative. However, read the article, if you haven't. The interview question is "how would you respond to ... homosexuals."

[Kidlicious]

You asked for an example of where Jesus answers a question with another question. I gave you a long list. I don't need to choose one, you obviously was wrong. Now just admit it and let's move on. It's getting late here, anyways.

I said Jesus never answered a question with a question? No. I'm saying that the Pope does not answer the question.