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  • kentonio
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Why would I follow your lies, Kentonio?

    I follow people who tell the truth, not people who deliberately lie to me.

    In the future if you expect me to trust *anything* you post, you need to apologize for lying to me. Deliberately.
    Hahahaha, that is the single funniest thing I've ever read.

    Next up, Hitler insists that the Jews apologize to him for their terrible anti-semitism.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    You still haven't said whether you're going to obey the new Catholic direction laid down by the Pope, or whether you're going to continue your current heretical ways
    Why would I follow your lies, Kentonio?

    I follow people who tell the truth, not people who deliberately lie to me.

    In the future if you expect me to trust *anything* you post, you need to apologize for lying to me. Deliberately.

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  • kentonio
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    You still haven't said whether you're going to obey the new Catholic direction laid down by the Pope, or whether you're going to continue your current heretical ways.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    there has been a spate of priests who have kicked homosexuals out of church duties for being gay.
    No, what has happened is that they have been fired from their jobs for lying. They all signed a contract agreeing to uphold the teachings of the Catholic church. And then chose to disregard the clause and do whatever the hell they wanted.

    So they got booted. They are still welcome to attend, just not get paid by the Catholic church.

    One would think that if you're angry at clergy breaking the rules, you would also be angry at the laity for doing the same.

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  • Kidlicious
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    Ewww

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  • kentonio
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    You're saying they don't wash after sex?

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  • Kidlicious
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    We had one gay man attending our church regularly for a few years until, supposedly the new pastor sail homosexuality is a sin. A lesbian couple comes occasionally and holds hands.

    Sticky issue.

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  • Sava
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    Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
    That's only because Sava wasn't the altar boy.


    I actually was an altar boy though

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  • Imran Siddiqui
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    To be fair, I think Elok is somewhat right on it (though a bit too flippant I think). These bishops are reaffirming that homosexuals are to be valued as people, but not that the Church should necessarily be ok with their sexual activity. As stated, the 'irregular situation' of unmarried couples living together is hardly ever broached by clergy. However, there has been a spate of priests who have kicked homosexuals out of church duties for being gay. The notion is that all are welcome, because all are sinners, but the Church isn't going to affirm the sin. It won't have a huge effect, except for the Catholic priests who are complete dicks (I'm positive that the majority of Catholic clergy in the US know of gay members of their flock and don't try to "take action" against them, even if they don't follow the Church's teaching that they should be celibate).

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  • kentonio
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    I'm still waiting for the attribution.

    Who said it, Kentonio? Which bishops? Which cardinals? Who wrote it?

    Don't you think that a sensible person would want to know these things?
    Absolutely..

    Originally posted by Reuters
    (Reuters) - In a dramatic shift in tone, a Vatican document said on Monday that homosexuals had "gifts and qualities to offer" and asked if Catholicism could accept gays and recognize positive aspects of same-sex couples.

    Roman Catholic gay rights groups around the world hailed the paper as a breakthrough, but Church conservatives called it a betrayal of traditional family values.

    The document, prepared after a week of discussions at an assembly of 200 bishops on the family, said the Church should challenge itself to find "a fraternal space" for homosexuals without compromising Catholic doctrine on family and matrimony.
    Originally posted by Reuters
    The language and tone of Monday's document, read to the assembly in the presence of Pope Francis, appeared to show that the advocates of a more merciful tone toward homosexuals and Catholics in so-called "irregular situations" -- such as unmarried couples living together -- had prevailed.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0I20Y120141013

    200 bishops enough, with the document read out in front of the pope?

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  • Imran Siddiqui
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    Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
    That's only because Sava wasn't the altar boy.

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  • Elok
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    Maybe it's like the way poppyseed bagels technically contain codeine, IDK.

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  • Elok
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    Centuries of evidence would seem to indicate that the effect is not terribly noticeable. I was terribly depressed as a teenager; I never noticed myself feeling particularly less anxious after services, regardless of the incense used. It's certainly got nothing on Prozac or Wellbutrin. At least, not when you're lighting one censer for eight or ten guys behind the iconostas, none of whom are actively trying to whiff it. I guess it might do something if you actively snorted the stuff. But the smoke-inhalation headache and mucus membrane irritation would cancel it out.

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  • Berzerker
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    Originally posted by Elok View Post
    ? Berz, I've stood next to a lit censer billowing frankincense fumes for an hour straight. It doesn't do a thing. I have no idea where you got the idea it does.
    Burning frankincense (resin from the Boswellia plant) activates poorly understood ion channels in the brain to alleviate anxiety or depression. This suggests that an entirely new class of depression and anxiety drugs might be right under our noses.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    It's so cute watching you squirm
    I'm still waiting for the attribution.

    Who said it, Kentonio? Which bishops? Which cardinals? Who wrote it?

    Don't you think that a sensible person would want to know these things?

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