Pope sends direct message to Ben

[Kidlicious]

I make up my own mind about people, and I very, VERY rarely completely give up on the idea that someone has some basic humanity in them.

You always say people are bad because many believe so.

[Kidlicious]

One would think that if it's clear and sound teaching you desire that you would respond to it when given.

You are just doing what you always do. Go learn what indirect communication means. He was not teaching that homosexuality is sin.

[Kidlicious]

The people not understanding the concept of love the sinner, not the sin, obviously. And a person that don't know the doctrine on this issue, has to have lived under a stone his whole life. I don't buy it.

So you believe that every sin, defined in the Bible (or church doctrine), is a sin? I didn't know you believed that way. Lots of Christians these days don't, especially when it comes to women's rights (and this issue). I think it should be assumed that the person who asked the question wants to know the direct answer.

[Ben Kenobi]

When you justify the Pope not telling sinners they sin, yes doubletalk. You do it always.

One would think that if it's clear and sound teaching you desire that you would respond to it when given.

[Nikolai]

Who misses it? I'm under the impression that he's speaking to a homosexual who wants to know if he is sinning, not a homophobe. So the person never gets an answer. And this is fine with you?

The people not understanding the concept of love the sinner, not the sin, obviously. And a person that don't know the doctrine on this issue, has to have lived under a stone his whole life. I don't buy it.

[kentonio]

Ah, I thought you were gonna say when the mob says they are evil.

I make up my own mind about people, and I very, VERY rarely completely give up on the idea that someone has some basic humanity in them.

[Kidlicious]

Yeah pretty much. Luckily that's actually very rarely.

Ah, I thought you were gonna say when the mob says they are evil.

[kentonio]

So basically you treat people bad whenever you feel like it?

Yeah pretty much. Luckily that's actually very rarely.

[Kidlicious]

I'm not a Christian, so why would I need to disassociate myself from it? I do believe in treating others as you'd like to be treated though. Unless that person is actually evil and devoid of human emotion or empathy.

So basically you treat people bad whenever you feel like it?

[kentonio]

Which explains why you reject, "love the sinner and hate the sin", and "love your enemies". You were pretty quick to disassociate yourself from Christianity when I brought up, "love your enemies".

I'm not a Christian, so why would I need to disassociate myself from it? I do believe in treating others as you'd like to be treated though. Unless that person is actually evil and devoid of human emotion or empathy.

[Kidlicious]

When I say in the thread that I believe homosexuality to be sinful and that it can be cured through Jesus Christ that's doubletalk?

Isn't that the forceful, direct teaching you stated you desire?

When you justify the Pope not telling sinners they sin, yes doubletalk. You do it always.

[Ben Kenobi]

I hate hypocrites, so obviously I'm going to call you out on your endless refusal to obey basic Christian values.

Which explains why you reject, "love the sinner and hate the sin", and "love your enemies". You were pretty quick to disassociate yourself from Christianity when I brought up, "love your enemies".

[Kidlicious]

The Pope is the keeper of the Catholic faith. The answer gives itself. Here Francis used the chance to point out something many people miss.

Who misses it? I'm under the impression that he's speaking to a homosexual who wants to know if he is sinning, not a homophobe. So the person never gets an answer. And this is fine with you?

[Ben Kenobi]

Of course it's wrong. It's doubletalk. Possibly that's why you use that tactic continually.

When I say in the thread that I believe homosexuality to be sinful and that it can be cured through Jesus Christ that's doubletalk?

Isn't that the forceful, direct teaching you stated you desire?

[kentonio]

It's quite clear to me that you are attempting to deceive people by arguing that there is division where none exists. There is no division between me and the Pope.

For someone so unconcerned about Christianity, you sure spend a lot of time talking about it.

I hate hypocrites, so obviously I'm going to call you out on your endless refusal to obey basic Christian values.

Again, be a nicer person and people won't treat you like ****.