Syria thread

[DinoDoc]

The Syrian government does not have that big an advantage over the rebels, even limited strikes could still tip the balance firmly in the rebels favor.

The government is winning, has the backing of powerful patrons, and the rebels are fractured and not unified in the slightest. I think you are being a bit Pollyannaish here if you think a delayed campaign (and one not intended to bring the regime down) in which the government forces have had time to move assets to safer areas is going to have that much of an impact on the ground.

[dannubis]

Dashi wins the thread.

[kentonio]

The government is winning, has the backing of powerful patrons, and the rebels are fractured and not unified in the slightest. I think you are being a bit Pollyannaish here if you think a delayed campaign (and one not intended to bring the regime down) in which the government forces have had time to move assets to safer areas is going to have that much of an impact on the ground.

The government is winning currently, a few months ago they were losing. It's a real civil war, not just a little uprising.

[PLATO]

Dashi wins the thread.

How cute...two little illiterates who know nothing banding together. Kumbaya.

[DinoDoc]

The government is winning currently, a few months ago they were losing. It's a real civil war, not just a little uprising.

Ken: I'm a little curious. If a strike on Syria is such a useful enterprise, why isn't the UK participating?

[kentonio]

Ken: I'm a little curious. If a strike on Syria is such a useful enterprise, why isn't the UK participating?

We're have this weird thing called democracy. I wouldn't worry about it though, it's unlikely to effect you any time soon.

[DaShi]

Ha! We've brought Plato down to our level.

Okay Dashi, Couple of things...Opinions are just that Opinions. You might want to check your reading skills as well. I said that it has "the feel" of mission creep to it. Is it like Vietnam now? Of course not. I thought any fool could see that, but I guess not all can and it has to be spelled out for some. It is my fear that this will escalate like Vietnam did...originally no troops on the ground there either. Just in case you didn't know, Russia has delivered the P-800 Yakhont. What happens if the Syrians sink a ship or two that fires a cruise missile? Not saying that escalation will happen...just that it has the same feel to it that Vietnam did before the Gulf of Tonkin. The parallels to Iraq are not as strong in my mind...we were overt about regime change and had massed troops on their boarder...not the case in Syria.

Exactly Plato, "Is it like Vietnam now? Of course not." That's correct. The facts are that it is not like Vietnam in anyway right now. Iraq was more like Vietnam from the day it was proposed.

Your feelings are irrelevant. Any war could escalate to be like Vietnam. That doesn't make every war Vietnam.

The fact remains is that the only thing you care about here is making attacks on Obama.

The parallels to Iraq are not as strong in my mind...we were overt about regime change and had massed troops on their boarder...not the case in Syria.

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[DaShi]

Hmm, I wonder what I was going to type there.

[PLATO]

You idiot. I actually support what Obama is trying to do. Just because I see peril in it doesn't mean that it is not the best available option. You really don't read things, do you? Just assume and post. How sad.

[DinoDoc]

We're have this weird thing called democracy. I wouldn't worry about it though, it's unlikely to effect you any time soon.

The way things look at this moment the war vote looks iffy for the US as well.

[DaShi]

Plato:

Yes, you support something that makes you frightened for the future of the country it happens.

"This is not Iraq, this is Vietnam."

Yeah, your "opinion" of this is supportive.



The most irritating thing about talking to stupid conservatives is after you've inevitably proven them wrong, they come back to say that that was never what they said to begin with. It's the insult to my intelligence that you think I can't read your old posts that is truly galling.

[PLATO]

Fortunately, I can't insult something you didn't demonstrate here. Once again, you are looking at one sentence and not the entire context of what I have said...it multiple posts. If you truly have read my old posts then you know that I have been a proponent of taking action against Syria based on chemical weapons usage since the March attacks. The simple fact that I see no option in Syria as good, but think that the most appropriate action (given ALL the circumstances) is what the President is calling for seems to be beyond you.

What is truly galling is that your knee jerk reaction was simply to say "No credibility" and expect that to have some meaning when you have demonstrated neither a knowledge of what I have said or history itself. To say that this is not Iraq, this is Vietnam is obviously a way to say "Be Wary, we have started this way before" and the context of all my posts will support this meaning. What am I to interpret from your baseless remarks except that you in fact haven't read my old posts or the ones I have made in this thread?

[Sava]

Michael Bay has made a whole career off people liking them.

Pain and Gain was surprisingly good... better than expected.

[kentonio]

The way things look at this moment the war vote looks iffy for the US as well.

Watching the Republicans struggle between their natural urge to bomb arabs and their natural urge to oppose everything the President supports is certainly hilarious if nothing else. Irresistible force meets immovable object.

[C0ckney]

If it's a full series of air and cruise missile strikes, then there's a good chance it'll bring down the regime.

why do you think rebel victory would be a good thing?