Syria thread

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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/09/20399319-russia-proposes-syria-put-weapons-under-international-control-in-attempt-to-avert-attack?lite

Russia is now backing a plan proposed a while back by John Kerry which called for Syria to surrender all of its chemical weapons to "the international community" (presumably that means the US) as a way to avert a US lead attack on Syria to punish their use of chemical weapons. I have lots of fears about this being agreed to but not implemented but this could be a way to solve the immediate problem without bombing.

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Fokker

The Red Baron liked their tri-planes.

[The Mad Monk]

Ace.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Leave it to the apologists to make it sound as if Kerry was actually given the authority to make this offer or that it was actually done with a sense seriousness. Considering it was immediately walked back as "rhetorical" and further:

“His point was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons, otherwise he would have done so long ago,” the spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, said in a statement. “That’s why the world faces this moment.”

Hence the state department admitted it was completley not a serious offer.


Point was it was a huge blunder and turned the ball over to the Russians. It now puts Russia in the drivers seat as far as influence in the middleast is considered, seeing as the seem to be the only ones capable of keeping the peace. On the one hand it preserves peace and as such is likely the best possible outcome on the other it so indicative of how amateur the admin is.

[regexcellent]

God damn this administration is the gift that keeps on giving. Hey remember how a year ago everyone was saying how great at foreign policy the President was?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

As expected, the whole playground fiasco resulted in a masterful solution that the administration put into action over a year ago when they became fast friends with Putin "the punisher". Seems the idea of Putin taking away little Bashar's little toys was something that was suggested to his new buddy a whole year ago. Who'ld a thunk it.


Brilliance!!!!


Now if only the world would stop making up these red line BS emergencies in the first place.

[kentonio]

Hilarious watching the Republicans here squeal about this enormous fiasco which has so far resulted in zero American deaths and done basically nothing to hurt America in any way, shape or form. Keep squealing little piggies!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Masterfully played Putin. Well done.

[The Mad Monk]

Hilarious watching the Republicans here squeal about this enormous fiasco which has so far resulted in zero American deaths and done basically nothing to hurt America in any way, shape or form. Keep squealing little piggies!

That's not squealing. That's Guffawing.

[dannubis]

it is tiresome.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Save yourself the tedium, go elsewhere then.

[Sava]

John Kerry is an idiot. Bush was the worst president in history. But Kerry would have also been terrible. I'm glad he didn't win in 2004.

Also, the Russian plan is a huge gift to Obama. Public opinion is firmly against the strikes. He was painted into a corner and had to act (whether by his own statements or some sort of international "norm"). Putin seems to have bailed his ass out.

[Hauldren Collider]

John Kerry is an idiot. Bush was the worst president in history. But Kerry would have also been terrible. I'm glad he didn't win in 2004.

Also, the Russian plan is a huge gift to Obama. Public opinion is firmly against the strikes. He was painted into a corner and had to act (whether by his own statements or some sort of international "norm"). Putin seems to have bailed his ass out.

This. This whole thing is a **** show. It's ****ing amateur hour in world diplomacy. Obama's administration can't even get its story straight among themselves. WTF? Obama painted himself into a corner, by the way.

Putin's out is surprising. I can only imagine he's just sick to death of having to listen to this embarrassing ordeal any longer.

[Hauldren Collider]

By the way, dismantling Syria's chemical weapons would probably mean putting troops in Syria. Probably the blue helmets, but if history is any guide, we'd be ponying up for most of them.

[dannubis]

Save yourself the tedium, go elsewhere then.

Mind the blood pressure dear. Next thing you know you'll blame obama for your headache.