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Originally posted by Lorizael
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Because they believe that justice requires punishing people? And vengeance is just punishing someone for doing something to you? That would mean the concepts of justice and vengeance overlap a lot. -
He wasn't on suicide watch because they figured since he pleaded out to avoid the death penalty that he wasn't at risk. Opps.
It does make you wonder if foul play wasn't involved.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Indeed. After all, there's a lot of overlap between beating a video game and beating your wife.Originally posted by GribblerClick here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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Lori, you may want to rethink that.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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Seems logical to me.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Possibly if you used the same definition of "beating" in both cases much like the word "punishing" in my post.Originally posted by Lorizael View PostComment
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See Ogie's followup to my post. The whole point of justice is that it is something more than just vengeance. Conflating the two is like conflating chemistry with alchemy. Yes, chemistry has its historical roots in alchemy, but if you don't realize that the two are fundamentally different now then you're missing the point.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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The main difference is that justice is carried out by a state which acts as an impartial third party and is too powerful for the loser in the dispute to challenge.Comment
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Like I said, you're missing the point. But the difference involves filosofy, so you probably won't give a ****.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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The Social Contract is a bit complicated of a concept for some, yes.<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.Comment
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YES A "CONTRACT" THAT NOBODY EVER "SIGNED" IS A DIFFICULT CONCEPT.Comment
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Gribbler is the most clear-thinking among the three of you. "filosofy" is irrelevant. The government when you get down to it is nothing more than the toughest gang in town.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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I'm not sure I ever said that justice as a concept requires government. Justice demands society.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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I love it when people who don't know **** about **** act as if their lack of knowledge and limited point of view implies other people are morons. That's why I come to Apolyton.
<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
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Justice isn't really different from vengeance in a meaningful way. It's a disincentive to wrong somebody by wronging the perpetrator. The key difference is that an impartial arbitrator decides who and how to punish.
Snoopy, I never called anyone a moron. Lori is getting hung up on silly definitional stuff, which is naturally what philosophy is all about
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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