Thread to document oil disasters as they happen

[Asher]

Yep, Oncle Boris obviously wants to go cold turkey on oil because like anyone else who complains about it he thinks in terms of black and white. What a moron.

This is actually correct for Oncle Boris. I understand your attempt at sarcasm, but it fails because he really is That Stupid.

Notice how he has nothing of substance to contribute.

[PLATO]

This is actually correct for Oncle Boris. I understand your attempt at sarcasm, but it fails because he really is That Stupid.

Notice how he has nothing of substance to contribute.

That is why he will ALWAYS be "Fake Boris"

I miss the real Boris....

[Fake Boris]

Not as much as I miss the real Plato.

[Fake Boris]

8/13/2013

Illinois pipeline blast sends flames 90 metres into air

A fuel pipeline beneath a western Illinois cornfield has exploded, sending flames 90 metres into the sky and prompting dozens of evacuations, fire officials said.

[Asher]

So now propane is oil?

[Rasputin]

propane is a bi product of crude oil distillation so I guess we can give him that one..

I think we should target the biggest environmental disasters. Methane releases from Cows must be stopped.

Maybe a thread announcing every methane release.

[giblets]

Go ahead and apply cap and trade to cattle herds. Sounds like a fine idea.

[Asher]

A wind turbine has exploded in Scotland in high winds.

[Dinner]

A bad showing by that company. Basic due diligence was clearly not followed, and whatever measures they had taken beforehand to control runoff are practically nonexistent.

The claim made by state EPA, Federal EPA, and several environmental groups is the toxic waste was deliberately dumped, has been continuously dumped for some time, because it costs money to dispose of it properly but it is free to dump it illegally in vacant lots.

[The Mad Monk]

x-waste'd

They can click on the link in your post to buy a new one.

[The Mad Monk]

x-me'd

I have to wonder how long they sat around watching it grow.

[The Mad Monk]

I appreciate the exceptionally mature thread icon he chose for this thread.

He's either an idiot or trying to troll. Actually, he's both.

I especially appreciate his attention to detail. For example, the spill was contained four days ago. The cause was a mechanical failure at an old well and it contaminated 13 hectares. It's almost fully cleaned up already.

The most horrifying part of this spill is it happened in the most ecologically insensitive part of the world it could have happened. The well was deep inside a weapons testing range, where cruise missiles and the like have been tested for decades.

The scale of devastation has been unimaginable. The death toll: 6 birds, 7 gophers, and 38 fish.

Far more animals are killed by wind farms each day.

...and here we go:

Study: Feds underestimated how many birds get killed by wind turbines

A new study found that the federal government underestimated the number of birds that die colliding with wind turbines across the country.

In fact, bird deaths were found to be 30 percent higher than previous estimates given by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in 2009.

“I estimated 888,000 bat and 573,000 bird fatalities/year (including 83,000 raptor fatalities) at 51,630 megawatt (MW) of installed wind-energy capacity in the United States in 2012,” writes K. Shawn Smallwood, author of the study that was published in the Wildlife Society Bulletin.
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“As wind energy continues to expand, there is urgent need to improve fatality monitoring methods, especially in the implementation of detection trials, which should be more realistically incorporated into routine monitoring,” Smallwood added.

Wind turbines have been a dividing issue among environmental groups, as different priorities are placed on promoting renewable energy to curb global warming versus saving wildlife.

“It is the rationale that we have to get off of carbon, we have to get off of fossil fuels, that allows them to justify this,” said Tom Dougherty, a former National Wildlife Federation employee. “But at what cost? In this case, the cost is too high.”

Last month, environmentalists and bird enthusiasts watched in horror as the rare White-throated Needletail flew into a wind turbine and died on the Outer Hebrides.

“This wasn’t even a turbine on a huge wind farm, it was a solitary turbine to provide power to a small community,” said a 38-year old who witnessed the bird hit the turbine. “There is huge concern in Scotland about plans for big wind farms and the danger they would pose to big birds of prey like golden eagles and sea eagles.”

In the U.S., nearly all the birds killed are protected by federal law, but the Obama administration has so far refused to prosecute renewable energy companies whose turbines kill birds.

“Despite numerous violations, the Obama administration — like the Bush administration before it — has unofficially exempted the wind industry from prosecution under the Eagle Protection and Migratory Bird Treaty Acts,” wrote the Manhattan Institute’s Robert Bryce. “By exempting the wind industry from prosecution under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act or the Eagle Protection Act, the federal government is providing another indirect subsidy to the sector.”

However, the Obama administration has prosecuted fossil fuel companies that kill far fewer birds than their wind-powered counterparts.

In 2009, ExxonMobil pleaded guilty in federal court to charges of killing 85 federally protected birds and agreed to pay $600,000 in fines and fees. That same year, Oregon-based PacifiCorp was also fined $1.4 million for the killing of 232 eagles in Wyoming, which were electrocuted by the company’s power lines.

“What it boils down to is this: If you electrocute an eagle, that is bad, but if you chop it to pieces, that is OK,” said Tim Eicher, a former U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service agent who helped prosecute the PacifiCorp.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/23/study-feds-underestimated-how-many-birds-get-killed-by-wind-turbines/

[Dinner]

x-waste'd

I love the SE meme where facts or reality don't matter. What an ecko chamber/circle jerk. Carry on.

[The Mad Monk]

Hah? You were talking about the toxic waste. The actual comment was aimed at the post above yours.

My comment to your post was:

I have to wonder how long they sat around watching it grow.

Which was a comment on the Gov't not getting their ass in gear until it became an event.

[regexcellent]

propane is a bi product of crude oil distillation so I guess we can give him that one..

I think we should target the biggest environmental disasters. Methane releases from Cows must be stopped.

Maybe a thread announcing every methane release.

I'm pretty sure methane has a lower atmospheric residence time than CO2. Like, way shorter. Like 50 times shorter. Like 8 years versus 400 years or something like that. Water vapor is one of the strongest greenhouse gasses but its atmospheric residence time is something like 20 days so nobody cares about it.

edit: for your reading pleasure. http://www.princeton.edu/~lam/TauL1b.pdf