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Fine, it was duvet.
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“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Actually, you being the secret brother og HC an Kuci - the havoc by revealing that is what I would call pretty entertaining
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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I'm a psychopath, while Kuci and HC are sociopaths. There's a significant difference.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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That sounds like an interesting mix
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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It is pretty clear, Manning - Hero; Government - serving itself and not the people = criminal. We - screwed. Not yet like Manning, but many will be.Originally posted by PLATO View Post
In the end even in DDR (east Germany) life was pretty decent even though you had full surveillance state... no reason why we would not hope for the same. Except that commies were making up jobs for just about anyone, and you had to buy a Trabant if you wanted a car... so here there are no jobs for everyone and cars are full of variety. It can still be a good life though, as long as you do not think anything ill of the subjects that are forbidden, noone picks on you for any reason and just just get lucky in the shoal so sharks don't pick you up. Yep, for most of us we will be OK.Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"Comment
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Manning isn't Snowden. Snowden can at least credibly claim he didn't put any lives at risk with his leak and the public had the right to know about it. Snowden is also still living a real life version of The Terminal while he decides where to apply for asylum, IIRC.Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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They are alike in the sense they have a vague sense about what they want to achieve. I don't know why people are comfortable with the idea that you can allow such people to consider themselves ultimate arbitrators of what's right and wrong.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Manning can now also claim that, as the courts have ruled he didn't aid the enemy.Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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You don't have to feel comfortable about it, but when it turns out your governments have been committing (and deliberately concealing) things like war crimes and mass domestic surveillance, then the whistle-blower becomes the lesser of two evils.Originally posted by Colon™ View PostComment
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He did do all of the other things he was charged with, summing up to up to 160 years worth of prison time. Big ****ing difference that is. He sure as hell wasn't a whistleblower, he didn't even READ any of the stuff he released. He just copied it onto CD-Rs labeled "lady gaga" and emailed them to rapist extraordinaire.Originally posted by Asher View Post
And by the way, accidentally shooting a Reuters reporter who was hanging out with insurgents isn't a war crime. This whole problem of people having really expansive definitions of what they consider war crimes, to include anything pertaining to fighting a war, is really ****ing dumb.Comment
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The big difference, far as I can tell is:Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
Manning = Hero because he unveiled the dastardly deeds of the Bush/Cheney-Dark lord regime and embarrased them accordingly.
Snowden = Villain because he unveiled the dastardly deeds of the Bush/Cheney/Obama/Biden-****** regime and embarrased them accordingly."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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My respect for Snowden died when his chosen countries to flee to included China, Russia, and Latin American banana republics. That said, what he revealed was of the embarrassing, not damaging variety, and he understood what it was he was releasing. Manning was just angry at his chain of command and decided to get back at the army for putting him on restriction. It was a ****ing temper tantrum, not a heroic act.Comment
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you seem to be fine with war crimes being committed, so why would you care about the finer points of defining them.Originally posted by regexcellent View Post"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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To be fair he's never tried to hide the fact he has no problem with civilians being butchered in warzones. He was quite explicit about that last time Vietnam came up.Comment
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