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    It's even worse than greece :

    The city of Detroit files the largest-ever US municipal bankruptcy, with debts of at least $18bn, following decades of industrial decline.


    The US city of Detroit in Michigan has become the largest American city ever to file for bankruptcy, with debts of at least $15bn (£10bn).

    State-appointed emergency manager Kevyn Orr asked a federal judge to place the city into bankruptcy protection.

    If it is approved, he would be allowed to liquidate city assets to satisfy creditors and pensions.

    Detroit stopped unsecured-debt payments last month to keep the city running as Mr Orr negotiated with creditors.

    He proposed a deal last month in which creditors would accept 10 cents for every dollar they were owed.

    But two pension funds representing retired city workers resisted the plan. Thursday's bankruptcy filing comes days ahead of a hearing that would have tried to stop the city from making such a move.

    Mr Orr suggested at the time there was a 50-50 chance of the city needing to file for bankruptcy. He also said the city's long-term debt could be between $17bn and $20bn.
    'Only alternative'

    At a press briefing on Thursday, Mr Orr said filing for bankruptcy was the "first step toward restoring the city".

    Alongside him, Detroit Mayor Dave Bing said that residents had to make a new start.

    "I really didn't want to go in this direction - but now that we are here, we have to make the best of it," Mr Bing said.

    The mayor also assured residents that the city would stay open and bills would be paid despite the filing.

    "Paychecks for our city employees will continue, services will continue," he said.

    In a letter accompanying Thursday's filing, Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder, a Republican, said he had approved the request from Mr Orr to file for Chapter 9 bankruptcy.

    "Only one feasible path offers a way out," Gov Snyder said, adding that residents needed a clear exit from the "cycle of ever decreasing services".

    "The only way to do those things is to radically restructure the city and allow it to reinvent itself without the burden of impossible obligations.

    The murder rate is at a 40-year high and only one third of the its ambulances were in service in early 2013.

    Declining investment in street lights and emergency services have made it difficult to police the city.
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    Raising taxes? If Detroit is anything like Philly, it probably has a ridiculous property tax, wage tax, sales tax, etc. American cities like these are passed the point where raising taxes will increase long term revenues.
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    • #3
      at the thought that Detroit went bankrupt because of its tax rates, rather than its ludicrous public debts, unfunded pension plans etc. combined with white flight.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
        at the thought that Detroit went bankrupt because of its tax rates, rather than its ludicrous public debts, unfunded pension plans etc. combined with white flight.
        Interesting. So you think that the company you work for can afford to spend more money than they earn ?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
          Interesting. So you think that the company you work for can afford to spend more money than they earn ?
          Doesn't matter the tax rate when you are always spending more than you earn.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by H Tower View Post
            Doesn't matter the tax rate when you are always spending more than you earn.
            No problem - just raise taxes.
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            • #7
              Detroit's problem is that the entire city is union. Even the private sector.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                Interesting. So you think that the company you work for can afford to spend more money than they earn ?
                Interesting. Do you think that a company can earn arbitrarily more by raising its prices?
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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                Killing it is the new killing it
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                  No problem - just raise taxes.
                  You're an idiot.

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                  • #10
                    Unless Michigan or the federal government raises taxes to bail out the city I don't see how taxes are going to help Detroit.

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                    • #11
                      My rigorous analysis demonstrates that raising tax rates to a mere 385% will allow Detroit to meet its obligations.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                        My rigorous analysis demonstrates that raising tax rates to a mere 385% will allow Detroit to meet its obligations.
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                        • #13
                          Michigan should raise taxes for residents of every county except Wayne County. Either it will revitalize Detroit or people will just leave Michigan.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                            at the thought that Detroit went bankrupt because of its tax rates, rather than its ludicrous public debts, unfunded pension plans etc. combined with white flight.
                            The ultimate reason is they were a one horse town whose horse died. The proximate reason is they refused to adapt to the change, trying to keep service levels the same (or rather being way, way to slow to cut) even as the city lost 3/4ths of its population. Yes, they kept trying to raise taxes when there was nothing left because everything was all based upon one industry which left town; once that happened there really wasn't anything left which was worth saving because they'd made terrible land use decisions as far back as the 1950's which handicapped them plus there was never an educated workforce which called the city home.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Detroit's problem is that the entire city is union. Even the private sector.
                              Dunce.

                              See my previous post.
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