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  • #76
    So now your argument is if there was another engineer this wouldn't have happened because with two people no one ever gets lazy or makes mistakes?

    Who is to say if you had two engineers each engineer thought the other locked up the brakes?

    Face it - you're politicizing the death of tens of people for your own gains. Pathetic.

    The brakes were applied. What the theory is is that not ENOUGH brakes were applied. There is nothing to indicate more people operating the train at the time would guarantee enough brakes were applied. The correct number of brakes to apply was never specified in the rules (before or after Harper took power).
    Last edited by Asher; July 24, 2013, 09:20.
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    • #77
      Specific handbrakes on each car were not applied, just the main brake on the engine - that is the point.

      As for politicization give me a ****ing brake - wouldn't your dead relative want you to enquire about the proximate (security deregulation) and first (systemic oil economy) causes of the disaster?
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      • #78
        No. They wouldn't want anything. They're dead.
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
          Specific handbrakes on each car were not applied, just the main brake on the engine - that is the point.

          As for politicization give me a ****ing brake - wouldn't your dead relative want you to enquire about the proximate (security deregulation) and first (systemic oil economy) causes of the disaster?
          I'd want them to focus on how to improve safety so it doesn't happen again. No one is served by pointing a finger at a political figure you happen to despise for doing something that has no demonstrable impact on the accident. It just makes you look like an ******* and an idiot. Especially when you throw in the oil economy comment --how soon until you start blaming Alberta for the accident as well?

          In other news, Harper has killed at least 35 people with "systemic deregulation" in Spain.
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          • #80
            Hauling oil around has nothing to do with oil exploding and killing people.

            Security "deregulation" has nothing to do with increased rail accidents.

            You're a moron.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Asher View Post

              In other news, Harper has killed at least 35 people with "systemic deregulation" in Spain.
              Spain has its own conservative government led by the Partido Popular. So, yes, conservatives are evil. Your point is taken.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
                Hauling oil around has nothing to do with oil exploding and killing people.

                Security "deregulation" has nothing to do with increased rail accidents.

                You're a moron.
                You might as well blame the steel industry for manufacturing train tracks, the food industry for feeding the worker who left the brakes off, and the government for providing a police force that provided law and order for an environment for foster such atrocities.

                You are not only a moron, Oncle Boris, you're also an opportunistic *******.
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                • #83
                  From what I've read, which is very scetchy as not many details are out, the engineer set hand breaks. They either failed or not enough were set.

                  The fact remains that a train with explosive cargo was parked on a mainline, a fire broke out, the engine was shut down and the air breaks were thus off, and another employee of the railroad checked the train.

                  It still crashed. It's a freak accident attended by lax rules. Where all those rules originated has yet to be explained. When did it become acceptable to park a train with hazardous cargo on a mainline?
                  Last edited by notyoueither; July 25, 2013, 01:42.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    You might as well blame the steel industry for manufacturing train tracks, the food industry for feeding the worker who left the brakes off, and the government for providing a police force that provided law and order for an environment for foster such atrocities.
                    Says the advocate of gun control.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
                      Says the advocate of gun control.
                      Yup. Guns are comparable in danger to having an energy economy.

                      You're worse than Ben sometimes...I don't even know how you manage this level of stupidity.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
                        From what I've read, which is very scetchy as not many details are out, the engineer set hand breaks. They either failed or not enough were set.

                        The fact remains that a train with explosive cargo was parked on a mainline, a fire broke out, the engine was shut down and the air breaks were thus off, and another employee of the railroad checked the train.

                        It still crashed. It's a freak accident attended by lax rules. Where all those rules originated has yet to be explained. When did it become acceptable to park a train with hazardous cargo on a mainline?
                        That is the real question. As Oncle Boris says, it's actually John A. MacDonald's fault for not pushing for such regulations while he was Prime Minister.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Asher View Post
                          Yup. Guns are comparable in danger to having an energy economy.

                          You're worse than Ben sometimes...I don't even know how you manage this level of stupidity.
                          Have you ever read about global warming? Air pollution? Oil spills? Cancer? Explosions are the icing on the cake.
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                          • #88
                            I'm with you. All people should be murdered in a mass genocide. It's the only solution to the problems you've identified.

                            You make very compelling arguments. I presume you studied filosofy in school?
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Sava View Post


                              You teasin' spunky monkey you.
                              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                                I'm with you. All people should be murdered in a mass genocide. It's the only solution to the problems you've identified.

                                You make very compelling arguments. I presume you studied filosofy in school?
                                Surely there must be no alternative other than genocide to the problems I mentioned.
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