Never, ever give permission for a search. Pulled over for speeding? What more evidence of speeding do they hope to find?
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostYou truly are stupid.
Read post #41 my reading impaired friend.
Originally posted by Dinner View PostDid you see the video of the 4th of July DUI check point stop in Texas?Last edited by Docfeelgood; July 9, 2013, 01:41.
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They won't get a warrant. I beat this in court. There are billboards in West Texas, saying don't let them do it.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostI would never consent to a search for any reason. That's just a fishing expedition even if there is nothing there to find. In the end it can only hurt you so why consent? Of course the cops know this and that's why they routinely lie and make **** up ("I smelled drugs") in order to search despite not having legal grounds.
The crooked ones who are looking to misuse their authority are just going to find a reason to search anyways, so saying no gains you nothing.
In my case I remained courteous and friendly throughout, and it seemed to disarm the guy. Like he was asking just to get a rise out of me or something. I ended up with a warning for "driving too close to the lane line". Almost surely it was my out-of-state plates that was the real reason.
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostThe only thing you really accomplish by saying no is to increase suspicion and maybe come off as non-compliant. At best this puts you at odds with the intent of the officer but they remain calm and do their duty (the sort of cop who isn't going to misuse the right to search either) ... and at worst this pisses them off.
The crooked ones who are looking to misuse their authority are just going to find a reason to search anyways, so saying no gains you nothing.
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I like your analogy, but it's simply not true. There's no sensible explanation as to why saying no to a search of your car leads to a better result than saying yes. (Assuming of course that you don't have something to hide.) A good cop isn't going to misuse your allowance ... a bad cop isn't going to give a **** about your "no".
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostI like your analogy, but it's simply not true. There's no sensible explanation as to why saying no to a search of your car leads to a better result than saying yes. (Assuming of course that you don't have something to hide.) A good cop isn't going to misuse your allowance ... a bad cop isn't going to give a **** about your "no".
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Originally posted by kentonio View PostThe mistake is in assuming that cops fall neatly into good and bad.
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostCompletely irrelevant. Anyone who will do the terrible things you're pissing your pants about is obviously willing to disregard your wishes about whether they can search your vehicle or not.
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Even the ACLU says never consent to a search as all it can do is hurt you.
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostH Tower, I really don't believe anything a cop says without some sort of physical evidence to back it up. Did you see the video of the 4th of July DUI check point stop in Texas? The cops just get pissed off at a guy for insisting they obey the law and the constitution so they completely lie, fake a reaction from a drug dog (the handler verbally orders the dog to bark, it was caught on camera), and then ransack the guy's car all so they can "teach him a lesson". This is routine stuff out of cops; we see abuses like that over and over.
BTW...this wasn't in Texas if I remember correctly."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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