She might as well blow off presidential aspirations, too. I didn't hate her. Now, well, now I don't care for her.
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"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by snoopy369 View PostPersonally I don't think that the overall culture of unpatriotic strife is race-related, at least not primarily.
Could the endless hate towards Obama just be purely based on a democratic president coming into office? Well let's consider that for a second, Obama followed eight years of Bush, a President that wasn't much loved by either side, and despite McCain being popular, by the end of that campaign he wasn't exactly a shining banner for Republicanism. So why this very deep and very open hate towards the president from absolutely day one?
He's a centre right politician who spent a ton of his political capital trying to compromise with the Republican party (and lost an awful lot of friends on his own side doing it) to the point of abject weakness. He brought in a healthcare plan which is straight out of Republican idealism, he supported the troops, killed OBL, helped topple Ghaddafi, maintained (and expanded in some cases) the strong US domestic security policies. In many ways Obama could have been a Republican from a decade ago and you'd barely have told the difference.
Yet they hate him. They don't just dislike or mistrust or disagree with him, they hate him. They hate him so much that the very idea of him being American is too much to damn well stomach for them. A party that screamed about respecting the office now talks about the President in the same condescending sneering tones that southerners used to use towards every black person. Every damn racial code word from the south's past has reared it's head again in this presidency and yet we're told 'Oh no, we're not racist!'. The Tea Party wave banners with the president made to look like a monkey and we're told 'Oh no, we're not racist! You're racist for thinking we are!'. A southern congressman shouts 'You lie!' directly at the President in congress and a governor says she 'felt a little bit threatened' the President (terrifying as erudite Harvard Law graduates obviously are to a career politician) but no no no there's definitely no racist overtones to any of this.
Seriously, how many times are an openly racist party going to have to be openly racist before people stop just taking their word for it that they're ok? As for DD, I'll always keep the door open that he might just be have been drinking the party Koolaid on Obama, but defending racists is not exactly a huge improvement over just being a racist yourself anyway. In some ways it's worse, because it provides it with legitimacy.
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No, it's not racism, FFS. It's just our increasingly moronic and feudal-minded political theater. We'd treat President Hillary far worse, if only because of her historical baggage.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostNo, it's not racism, FFS. It's just our increasingly moronic and feudal-minded political theater. We'd treat President Hillary far worse, if only because of her historical baggage.
You can all sit there and deny it's happening and it'll just get worse and worse, or you can face up to it and actually deal with it. Go read what a lot of prominent black writers have to say about this supposedly non-existent racism that's pervading American society recently, and then come back and tell me we're just making it up.
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Kentonio, it really ****ing isn't racism. I promise you it's not racism. If he were a black republican they'd be all over him. By the way, if you want to see really serious racism, you should see how black republicans get treated by the media.
And yeah, kentonio, you really don't understand US politics.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Who said anything about foreigners in general? You're the only one going on about this ATM. Anyway, I freely admit I don't understand UK politics--largely because I don't bother to follow it--but even if I did, I wouldn't be silly enough to make sweeping conclusions about Labour being, say, secret communist infiltrators while people across the Brit political spectrum told me I was talking nonsense.
Also, a lot of "prominent black writers" earn their bread and butter by looking for things to be offended by and raising hell with them. Just like prominent gay writers, prominent Jewish writers, prominent Christian writers, prominent female writers...if you didn't know that's how we roll over here (I'd be astonished if it were different over there), you really don't know how we work at all.
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostKentonio, it really ****ing isn't racism. I promise you it's not racism.
Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostIf he were a black republican they'd be all over him. By the way, if you want to see really serious racism, you should see how black republicans get treated by the media.
Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostAnd yeah, kentonio, you really don't understand US politics.
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P.S. Ignorant hatred of Muslims has been pretty bipartisan, TBH. The direction of the hysteria-defensiveness vector depends on the political situation. That Dubai Ports nonsense was cheered on by Dems, for example, because it plainly annoyed the Republican administration.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostP.S. Ignorant hatred of Muslims has been pretty bipartisan, TBH. The direction of the hysteria-defensiveness vector depends on the political situation. That Dubai Ports nonsense was cheered on by Dems, for example, because it plainly annoyed the Republican administration.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostWho said anything about foreigners in general? You're the only one going on about this ATM. Anyway, I freely admit I don't understand UK politics--largely because I don't bother to follow it--but even if I did, I wouldn't be silly enough to make sweeping conclusions about Labour being, say, secret communist infiltrators while people across the Brit political spectrum told me I was talking nonsense.
Originally posted by Elok View PostAlso, a lot of "prominent black writers" earn their bread and butter by looking for things to be offended by and raising hell with them. Just like prominent gay writers, prominent Jewish writers, prominent Christian writers, prominent female writers...if you didn't know that's how we roll over here (I'd be astonished if it were different over there), you really don't know how we work at all.
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Bush the younger got accused for orchestrating 911 and installing a fascist regime. I don't think the **** Obama is receiving is any worse. USicans need to turn down the hysteria all around.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.
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Originally posted by Colon™ View PostBush the younger got accused for orchestrating 911 and installing a fascist regime. I don't think the **** Obama is receiving is any worse. USicans need to turn down the hysteria all around.
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