Stabbing at Lone Star College

[Krill]

I think it's blades under 3 inches and that aren't gravity knives are legal to street carry, right?

[The Mad Monk]

Pen knives can be carried legally.

Owned? By children? I need to ask because that sign was in front relatively safe tableware.

Fish cleaning knife, BTW:

[kentonio]

I think it's blades under 3 inches and that aren't gravity knives are legal to street carry, right?

I think they tightened it up a bit.

[kentonio]

Owned? By children? I need to ask because that sign was in front relatively safe tableware.

Its a blanket ban on knives with rigid blades, because otherwise it would be unworkable. If you sharpen the blade of a butter knife it would be as deadly as a kitchen knife but perfectly legal.

Fish cleaning knife, BTW:

That would definitely be banned unless you were engaging in some activity that actually required it.

[Krill]

Owned? By children? I need to ask because that sign was in front relatively safe tableware.

Personally I think that is a combination of dumb shop management and someone taking the piss.

Fish cleaning knife, BTW:

At a guess, walking around a shopping centre with this (unless you just bought it are taking it home and you'd be asked for receipts to prove that) is not legal, but sitting beside a stream/ocean with some fishing rods and bait, or at a campsite when you have said equipment with you is legal. Owning it is fine, it's where you take it and why. If it's for cleaning fish, you don't need it except to clean fish out, so you shouldn't have it with you except when you are (likely) going to need it. It's not like you would get arrested for having it on you if you failed to catch any fish.

[DinoDoc]

You eat roast beef while wandering the streets?

The question was what one might need a knife for in whatever God awfull English city Krill lives in.

[kentonio]

Personally I think that is a combination of dumb shop management and someone taking the piss.

The law does actually include cutlery, I believe for the reason I mentioned above.

[regexcellent]

Pen knives can be carried legally.

Mine has a locking blade which makes it a ~murder weapon~ in the UK.

Mostly it's handy cause it has a screwdriver and pliers on it but the blade is pretty useful too.

[Krill]

The law does actually include cutlery, I believe for the reason I mentioned above.

That's retarded. A sharpened pencil is more deadly than a cutlery knife.

[kentonio]

That's retarded. A sharpened pencil is more deadly than a cutlery knife.

It is a bit retarded, but otherwise I suppose you get into complex definitions of what actually constitutes cutlery? How do you define a butter knife?

[Krill]

Mine has a locking blade which makes it a ~murder weapon~ in the UK.

Mostly it's handy cause it has a screwdriver and pliers on it but the blade is pretty useful too.

I always find it somewhat funny that knives are illegal but screwdrivers aren't. They make awesome shanks.

[regexcellent]

Why not just not restrict knife purchases to teenagers? If teenagers can get their hands on tobacco and alcohol underage, and they can, they can get access to knives too. And they actually might have a legitimate reason to want a butter knife, for that matter.

[Krill]

It is a bit retarded, but otherwise I suppose you get into complex definitions of what actually constitutes cutlery? How do you define a butter knife?

Define it on length. If the argument then is you can sharpen it then they've lost their minds, a kid could more easily nick a butter knife from school and sharpen that. Then someone argues about where the blade ends and where the handles starts...When I can pick up a stick off the ground and make it more dangerous than a ****ing butter knife, I don't really think it ****ing matters.

[kentonio]

Why not just not restrict knife purchases to teenagers? If teenagers can get their hands on tobacco and alcohol underage, and they can, they can get access to knives too. And they actually might have a legitimate reason to want a butter knife, for that matter.

It could well be over zealous lawmaking. I have no problem with the goals, but sometimes they do go to far. If the stabbing numbers go down, it's likely to be revisited at some point if people actually care enough.

[kentonio]

Define it on length. If the argument then is you can sharpen it then they've lost their minds, a kid could more easily nick a butter knife from school and sharpen that. Then someone argues about where the blade ends and where the handles starts...When I can pick up a stick off the ground and make it more dangerous than a ****ing butter knife, I don't really think it ****ing matters.

I tend to agree.