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    WASHINGTON (AP) — Seeking to reassure anxious Israelis and their American supporters, Vice President Joe Biden vowed Monday that the United States won't back down from its pledge to use military action to thwart Iran's nuclear program should all other options fail.

    "President Barack Obama is not bluffing," he said.

    In a prelude to Obama's upcoming trip to Israel — his first as president — Biden told a powerful pro-Israel lobby that the U.S. doesn't want a war with Iran, but that the window for diplomacy is closing. He said prevention, not containment, is the only outcome the U.S. will accept.

    But in a sign the U.S. is still reluctant to embroil itself in another Mideast military effort, Biden cautioned more than 13,000 Israel supporters at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee's annual conference that if Israel or the U.S. acts too hastily, without exhausting every other reasonable option, they could risk losing the backing of the international community.

    "That matters because God forbid we have to act, it's important that the rest of the world is with us," Biden said to muted applause.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking to the conference by video link from Jerusalem, pushed back against such reluctance, reflecting the tension still present between the U.S. and its closest Mideast ally as they seek a united front to stave off Iran's nuclear program.

    "From the bottom of my heart and from the clarity of my brain, words alone will not stop Iran. Sanctions alone will not stop Iran," Netanyahu said.

    The U.S. and world nations have imposed crippling sanctions on Iran's oil and financial industries in hopes of forcing Tehran back to the negotiating table and persuading it to give up nuclear ambitions. Netanyahu has warned that the world has until this summer — at the latest — to keep Iran from building a bomb, and has repeatedly hinted at Israel's willingness to launch a military strike to stop it, an endeavor the United States likely would be dragged into.

    Participants in the conference were struck by Netanyahu's tough talk, which suggested that military action was inevitable.

    "I'm afraid there is going to be something drastic that could happen," said Barbara Rogan, a retired librarian from Westport, Conn. "Iran feels, I think, that they have nothing to lose while forging ahead. The sanctions aren't enough to frighten them."

    But Natalie Telson, a Columbia University sophomore from Tustin, Calif., suggested that Netanyahu's saber-rattling was driven in part by his audience — "12,000 of the most pro-Israel active people in the country."

    Iran insists that its nuclear program is intended for peaceful purposes such as power generation and medical uses, but the head of the U.N. nuclear agency said this month he cannot guarantee all of Iran's activities are peaceful unless Tehran increases cooperation.

    The White House sees Obama's visit later in March to Israel, Jordan and the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories as an opportunity to reset relations with Netanyahu, who has frequently bumped heads with Obama, and to strengthen ties with Israelis, many of whom bristled at Obama's early efforts to reach out to the Arab world and his decision not to visit Israel during his first term as president.

    White House officials say Obama won't be bringing an ambitious new peace plan when he travels to Jerusalem, but improving relations with Israel and its leader could open the door to a stepped up U.S. effort to facilitate negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians.

    "We will continue to oppose any efforts to establish a state of Palestine through unilateral actions," Biden said, referring to Palestinian efforts to seek U.N. recognition that the United States has staunchly opposed. "There is no shortcut to peace."

    Obama spoke to pro-Israel group's conference last year while running for re-election, but this year sent Biden, who vowed a nimble and resolute U.S. response to fluctuating threats in Iran, Syria and Egypt. He cast a vote of confidence in incoming Secretary of State John Kerry — "You're going to be happy with Kerry" — and said only through engagement would the U.S. navigate the challenges the Arab Spring presents.

    Biden made no mention of the newest member of Obama's second-term national security team, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, whom opponents cast as insufficiently supportive of Israel. Hagel also apologized for saying the "Jewish lobby" intimidates members of the Senate into favoring actions contrary to U.S. interests.

    Speaking on a panel shortly before Biden's address, Republican Sen. John McCain, a leading foe of Hagel's, said, "we need members of the national security team who are pro-Israel, not anti-Israel."

    Logan said she was so upset by the nomination of Hagel that she called the White House to complain. Frank Ponder of Los Angeles said he was reassured by Obama's first-term team of Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

    As for Kerry and Hagel, Ponder said both were "brand new" and he would wait and see.

    Critical for Hagel's success in winning Senate confirmation was the fact that AIPAC never publicly took a stand on the nomination.

    Anna Etra, a Barnard College student from Los Angeles, said that was a "a very strategic move" by AIPAC which typically "reaches out to incumbents and those competing against them."

    Days after the U.S. announced a substantial shift in policy in Syria to provide non-lethal aid directly to rebels battling President Bashar Assad, Biden reiterated that Assad must be ousted, but made clear that uncertainty about elements of the Syrian opposition is still keeping the U.S. from arming the rebels.

    "We are not signing up for one murderer's gang replacing another in Damascus," Biden said.

    Biden expressed a similar degree of skepticism about Egypt, where U.S. hopes that Islamist President Mohammed Morsi could play a powerful leadership role in the Mideast were dampened after anti-Semitic remarks Morsi made in 2010 were publicized and political protesters have questioned his commitment to democracy.

    "We're not looking at what's happening in Egypt through rose-colored glasses," Biden said. "Our eyes are wide open. We have no illusions about the challenges that we face, but we also know this: There's no legitimate alternative at this point to engagement."

    His comment came just one day after Kerry announced the release of $250 million in U.S. aid to Egypt.
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    At least the democrats learned one important lesson from President Bush:

    "That matters because God forbid we have to act, it's important that the rest of the world is with us," Biden said to muted applause.
    So...another middle eastern war anyone?
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    Maybe I shouldn't sign that national guard contract after all

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    • #3
      Somehow an invasion of iran seems unlikely, reg. More likely we'll just bomb the **** out of their military facilities with impunity.
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • #4
        Willing to bet your life on it?
        You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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        • #5
          "President Barack Obama is not bluffing," he said.
          Hagel's nomination says otherwise.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Krill View Post
            Willing to bet your life on it?
            Not so much my life but if my chance of being deployed has gone up by a lot then that makes me have to rethink the financial considerations and impact to my career. Signal officers don't get killed that much.

            Your point stands though.

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            • #7
              That was in reply to HC. It's obviously your choice to make, I just found it distasteful that HC was so flippant about such a decision. If you want to do it, then I wish you good luck with it.
              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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              • #8
                It would probably be cheaper to move American soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan into Iran, than bring them all back to the contiguous states. Especially if you just have them storm the border, shock & awe, with no intent of leaving any grunts alive to pay. It would help balance the US budget, and even jihadists should admire the shear insanity of it.
                There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                • #9
                  "That matters because God forbid we have to act, it's important that the rest of the world is with us," Biden said to muted applause.
                  What happens if they hold another "Coalition of the Willing" and no one ( else ) comes?
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Krill View Post
                    That was in reply to HC. It's obviously your choice to make, I just found it distasteful that HC was so flippant about such a decision. If you want to do it, then I wish you good luck with it.
                    Oh good lord, I wasn't being flippant, or criticizing reg. Just disagreeing with his assessment.
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                    Hagel's nomination says otherwise.
                    QFT
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                    • #11
                      If the carrot doesn't work there is always the stick.

                      Europe is too broke to help you with another invasion though.
                      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                        Not so much my life but if my chance of being deployed has gone up by a lot then that makes me have to rethink the financial considerations and impact to my career. Signal officers don't get killed that much.

                        Your point stands though.
                        War will make you a man.
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                        • #13
                          so will taking it in the butt
                          maybe he can get into alby's unit
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            Alby's doing Marines. Reg is joining the National Guard.
                            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                            • #15
                              If people still think they can join the Guard for some extra cash and that's it, that's there misfortune.
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                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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