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Time for President to take up issue of Knives
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Tags: None
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Congrats on completely missing the point, Plato!
I don't think increased gun control is a particularly effective solution for school massacres either, but posts like this are so obtuse that they damage your position, instead of helping it."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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I know...I just couldn't resist highlighting the hypocracy. People are concentrating on the guns and not on the people using the guns. That, to me, is even stupider than this thread."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Yes, but not in the same way you are. I have no real issue with background checks. I do have an issue with concentrating on the millions of legal gun owners who have never committed a crime versus concentrating on getting treatment for mentally unstable people who are likely to become violent. It seems to me that removing the constraints put on mental health officials for identifying potentially violent patients would work well with a background check. To me, that is the kind of emphasis we need to be looking at...not wheter or not you can carry 5 bullets in a magazine as opposed to 10."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Of course the applicable "constraint" is they just aren't any good at differentiating between those who are risks, and those who aren't. So good luck removing that ...Originally posted by PLATO View PostIt seems to me that removing the constraints put on mental health officials for identifying potentially violent patients would work well with a background check.
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1. It's "hypocrisy".Originally posted by PLATO View PostI know...I just couldn't resist highlighting the hypocracy. People are concentrating on the guns and not on the people using the guns. That, to me, is even stupider than this thread.
2. It's not hypocrisy given that guns are a lot more scary and dangerous than knives. Also, I think anyone would love it if we could just make people less inclined to engage in violence in general, any ideas?
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One most also remember that people suffering from mental health issues are far more likely to be the victims of violence, as opposed to perpetrators.Originally posted by PLATO View PostYes, but not in the same way you are. I have no real issue with background checks. I do have an issue with concentrating on the millions of legal gun owners who have never committed a crime versus concentrating on getting treatment for mentally unstable people who are likely to become violent. It seems to me that removing the constraints put on mental health officials for identifying potentially violent patients would work well with a background check. To me, that is the kind of emphasis we need to be looking at...not wheter or not you can carry 5 bullets in a magazine as opposed to 10."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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As long as they are not military style bayonets. Course we were told they aren't used anymore in the modern military.Originally posted by Aeson View PostThat's silly. As long as the knife doesn't have more than 7 blades, a silencer, or a black handle it's ok to own.
For the record, no knife control measures are worth their salt unless they have the ringing endorsement of Joe, 'The Brain' Biden.Last edited by Ogie Oglethorpe; January 21, 2013, 13:25."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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The "likely to become violent" is the problem. It's interesting to me that generally conservative people who have qualms about the government having the power to restrict gun ownership, commerce and manufacture, aren't even more concerned with the notion of government having some power to engage in "civil commitment" without a crime being committed or due process being observed. We've already had that history of abuse to some extent.Originally posted by PLATO View PostYes, but not in the same way you are. I have no real issue with background checks. I do have an issue with concentrating on the millions of legal gun owners who have never committed a crime versus concentrating on getting treatment for mentally unstable people who are likely to become violent. It seems to me that removing the constraints put on mental health officials for identifying potentially violent patients would work well with a background check. To me, that is the kind of emphasis we need to be looking at...not wheter or not you can carry 5 bullets in a magazine as opposed to 10.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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