You know how gun rights people bring up Switzerland a lot?

[kentonio]

There was exactly one reason why they didn't invade, and that was the mountains. The Swiss plan called for pulling everyone back from the population centers into more easily defensible areas. If Russia hadn't hone badly they'd have done it anyway at some point. The point of the comparison was not that the SU and Swiss were similar propositions, simply that a nation with the resources to invade a vast neighbour with millions of troops is hardly likely to crap itself about a tiny neighbor with a fraction of the defensive numbers. The stuff about home gun ownership is ridiculous.

[Kidlicious]

Switzerland was neutral and economically dependent on Germany. There simply wasn't any reason to invade Switzerland.

[kentonio]

Switzerland was neutral and economically dependent on Germany. There simply wasn't any reason to invade Switzerland.

There was a very good reason from the Nazi POV, half of Switzerland was seen as part of Greater Germany.

[Kidlicious]

There was a very good reason from the Nazi POV, half of Switzerland was seen as part of Greater Germany.

If you think there was a good reason to invade Switzerland, then the reason they didn't is because they would have had to fight an armed citizenry in the mountains. But the Greater Germany issue was just propaganda.

[kentonio]

If you think there was a good reason to invade Switzerland, then the reason they didn't is because they would have had to fight an armed citizenry in the mountains.

The reason they didn't was because the mountain terrain would have required a large operation, and they were kinda busy in Russia at the time. The idea that one of the most powerful militaries in the world was afraid of a group of homeowners with rifles is absolutely farcical.

But the Greater Germany issue was just propaganda.

No, it really wasn't. Hitler believed in it and was willing to wage a world war over the principle.

[DaShi]

The reason why people don't do FFLs for private sales is because, frankly, it's a huge pain in the ass. Just being able to call a number and get a green/red response on the license # would dramatically improve things. No one likes finding some guy and paying him 20/30/40 then waiting while the background check happens.

Sounds like a business opportunity to me.

[giblets]

If you think there was a good reason to invade Switzerland, then the reason they didn't is because they would have had to fight an armed citizenry in the mountains. But the Greater Germany issue was just propaganda.

Do you also think the plans to exterminate and/or enslave the slavs to create lebensraum for Germans was just propaganda?

[Lonestar]

Sounds like a business opportunity to me.

Yeah, some guy who has a FFL and works out of his kitchen would probably be all about requiring all private sales to be done through him(there's a whole industry built around it). The license-automated number thing would be quick and thorough and wouldn't require a FFL.

[Straybow]

The problem is primarily that they let the kook out of the psycho ward sometime after 2005, secondarily that their lax monitoring then allowed him to get weapons, and lastly that he actually used the weapons to kill.

[Lonestar]

The problem is primarily that they let the kook out of the psycho ward sometime after 2005, secondarily that their lax monitoring then allowed him to get weapons, and lastly that he actually used the weapons to kill.

Which is why I would require States to report relevant 4473 info to NICS. Right now it is not a Federal requirement, and quite a few states don't.

[regexcellent]

I'm at a complete loss as to how any of that could be expected to stop gun crime at all. That doesn't actually stop anyone from making a straw purchase.

[Lonestar]

I'm at a complete loss as to how any of that could be expected to stop gun crime at all. That doesn't actually stop anyone from making a straw purchase.

Straw purchases are very rare anyway.

[Kidlicious]

The reason they didn't was because the mountain terrain would have required a large operation, and they were kinda busy in Russia at the time. The idea that one of the most powerful militaries in the world was afraid of a group of homeowners with rifles is absolutely farcical.



No, it really wasn't. Hitler believed in it and was willing to wage a world war over the principle.

You don't really know the difference between the military and the civilians when you are fighting against guerrilla warfare.

[kentonio]

You don't really know the difference between the military and the civilians when you are fighting against guerrilla warfare.

What does guerrilla warfare have to do with anything? The Germans had no problems with occupying hostile territory, if you recall they had a nasty habit of carrying out mass executions and transporting entire populations to the camps. Seriously, you can't seriously claim they didn't invade Switzerland because of citizens having guns, the idea is preposterous. If you really want to go that route, then please provide some historical evidence for it.

[Kidlicious]

What does guerrilla warfare have to do with anything? The Germans had no problems with occupying hostile territory, if you recall they had a nasty habit of carrying out mass executions and transporting entire populations to the camps. Seriously, you can't seriously claim they didn't invade Switzerland because of citizens having guns, the idea is preposterous. If you really want to go that route, then please provide some historical evidence for it.

Ah, the Jews didn't put up any resistance. If you don't think it's a problem to fight against an enemy that uses guerrilla warfare that's your opinion.