Scott Walker's crusade continues

[Felch]

If they're the good guys, then they have nothing to fear from right to work laws.

[Aeson]

If you disagree with this, then you should also give some percent of the property rights to your house next time you hire a plumber to fix your toilet.

With all the bathrooms you had growing up, you might have enough toilets to keep a plumber busy full time ... but for most of us this analogy isn't going to make as much sense ...

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Ba dum dum [/rim shot]

[MichaeltheGreat]

Would be nice to think it goes directly to shareholders, but in today's Obama pay to play regime, corporate cornyism is at all time highs wherein one pays not to be forgotten when the regulation get written. Corporations are finding as the scope of government grows, impacting the governement to apply regulations on competitors and carving out exemptions for themselves is a far better investment of money. Far better than the payback one receives from increasing worker salaries at least.

Don't give all the credit to Obama. Corporate cronyism on regulatory and other political matters is a time-honored bypartisan tradition that goes back to, say... the Jackson administration? If not earlier?

[regexcellent]

Obama's taken it to an art form.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Let's be honest here. You're just favoring mob rule. A rather odd stand for a gay man to take.

Drudge headlines now showing threats of violence and calls for blood. Why is it again that leftist mob behavior typically gets a pass when corresponding tea party pacifist demonstrations are reviled and intemperate?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Don't give all the credit to Obama. Corporate cronyism on regulatory and other political matters is a time-honored bypartisan tradition that goes back to, say... the Jackson administration? If not earlier?

You'll note the cronyism is proportional to the size of governmental scope.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I love this... now conservatives are blaming Obama for crony capitalism .

[DinoDoc]

I love this... now conservatives are blaming Obama for crony capitalism .

I blame him for wasting billions of taxpayer money on it and expecting the country to thank him.

[MichaeltheGreat]

You know, when I first came to this site I thought MtG was fierce. Now I see he's incapable of anything more than beating up strawmen.

Does anybody seriously think that showing up to work naked is the same as not wanting your pay given over to a political party you don't support?

Give me something more than strawmen. And don't whine about ad hominems, at least until you learn to construct better strawmen.

And the answer to your question is no, nobody seriously thinks that. Sorry you take things so literally (must be that public school education ), but I was using the absurd to illustrate the absurd - your notion that "pay given over to a political party you don't support" as if the unions are taking substantially all of a worker's pay and funnelling it striaght into the Democratic party.

The absurdity is two-fold: First, that you think anyone takes seriously the notion that Walker or any of the other right to work proponents care about a couple of dollars a paycheck for the average union worker - which is on the high side of the proportion of union dues which get channeled to union supported PACs and direct donations to candidates.

Second is that you think anyone takes seriously the crocodile tears shed over how tough it would be for those workers to get different jobs if they feel so upset that the union supported a Dem candidate for congress with a few pennies of that particular worker's per-paycheck contribution. If this was any other issue, say the owners outsourcing or relocating to increase profits, you'd be cheering the capitalist system at work and suggest those workers should suck it up and get another job instead of feeling entitled.

[MichaeltheGreat]

I blame him for wasting billions of taxpayer money on it and expecting the country to thank him.

Reagan did that too.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I love this... now conservatives are blaming Obama for crony capitalism .

Now?????

Have been since 2009 and stimulus. Not a new thing. Big Corps... Banking, pharma, automotive, clean energy to name but a few. Small businesses meanwhile not so much.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Reagan did that too.

Fortunately the economy was growing leaps and bounds so that any of that was forgotten. Just like today... NVM.

[MichaeltheGreat]

No, that's a terrible use of the money. Pay it out to shareholders!

Because the workers don't own the capital, the investors do? The workers don't (or shouldn't) earn some magical property right in the firm's capital just by being hired.

I wasn't being literal. I was illustrating the absurdity of whichever troll it was' argument that the worker should have some special dispensation if he doesn't like how the union spends dues money. Apparently, union dues are the only instance in this glorious right-wing paradigm where once an individual has spent money and passed it on to another entity, that individual should have an absolute say in how the money is used or else a dispensation to opt out of the payment, while retaining the benefits of that payment. Ah, the something for nothing worker's paradise.

[DinoDoc]

Reagan did that too.

He did it to ceased being a valid excuse when you became 6 years old, MtG.