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  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    This is what's known as the self-hating Jew. When she says "dwindling political left", what she means is that there is no longer a strain of Israeli political thought with even the tiniest influence that believes Israel shouldn't defend itself. Something like 80-85% of Israelis supported the recent operations in Gaza.
    Amen.
    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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    • I think Israel has a right to defend itself. I don't think it's doing so in a very useful fashion, often working against their best interests in the long term, and sometimes outright overstepping that right. The US of course does all of that too, to an even larger and more senseless extent.

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      • Now because they didn't invade apparently Abbas is under huge pressure in the West Bank because violence worked better than non-violence..

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        • What of the right of Palestinians to defend themselves? If someone is occupying your country isn't firing missles back at them self-defense?
          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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          • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            Was there no room in Canada, the United Kingdom or Australia for them?
            Actually, the British let in refugees of the Kindertransport.

            Mark Jonathan Harris's accomplished film is concerned with the "Kindertransport," a rescue operation that took place shortly before the outbreak of World War II. Great Britain took in over 10,000 Jewish children from Germany, Austria and Czechoslovakia in order to protect them from Hitler, and both Jewish and non-Jewish parents, did all they could to save their children from the dangers they foresaw ahead of them. These children were placed into foster homes and hostels, hoping their real parents would one day meet them in England.

            In the United States, Congress did not pass a bill that would have allowed similar entry to the young refugees because they decided that "accepting children without their parents is contrary to the laws of God."
            Academy award winning films “Schindler”s List” and “Life is Beautiful” both told beautiful, sad and inspirational stories from the Holocaust. Paul Wong Kinder plays the violin on the train.

            Courtesy of Warner Bros. While narrative Holocaust films like these have been seen by a great number of the viewing public, many remarkable documentaries concerning the same […]


            Not enough, but better than none.


            American imperialism is Coca-cola, McDonald's, and action movies. European imperialism was corvée labor, corporal punishment, and Maxim guns.
            Oh horsesh!t. American Imperialism is 'liberating' the Philippines from the Spanish, then keeping them and killing thousands of Filipinos in brutal waves of repression.

            I want no prisoners. I wish you to kill and burn; the more you kill and burn, the better it will please me. The interior of Samar must be made a howling wilderness.
            General Jacob H. Smith to Major Littleton Waller, 1901

            You might also want to look up the history of the 'pacification' campaign on Marinduque.

            American Imperialism is invading Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic on a regular basis, then taking over their finances and supporting kleptocratic dictators in power. Dictators who kept American companies supplied with cheap commodities whilst ensuring that their own people lived in conditions of appalling squalor and deprivation.

            Still, it does make domestic help that much cheaper in the U.S. .
            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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            • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
              What of the right of Palestinians to defend themselves? If someone is occupying your country isn't firing missles back at them self-defense?
              Not if those missiles are aimed at civilians.

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              • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
                What of the right of Palestinians to defend themselves? If someone is occupying your country isn't firing missles back at them self-defense?
                Who is occupying their "country?" Israel doesn't have anyone in the Gaza Strip.

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                • Dr. Strangelove believes that Jews should be evicted from their homes.
                  If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                  • Israel's "partners in peace" chime in with their own contribution.

                    Fatah: We also fought against Israel in Pillar of Defense
                    By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
                    24/11/2012
                    Gaza-based armed groups tied to Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party claim they fired 516 rockets at Israel during recent conflict; Fatah Central Committee member praises Hamas, Islamic Jihad, says Abbas was not against the "resistance."

                    Several armed groups belonging to Fatah in the Gaza Strip claimed Saturday that they had also fired various types of rockets and missiles at Israel during Operation Pillar of Defense.

                    A spokesman for the groups, which are affiliated with Fatah's armed wing, Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, told reporters that his men fired 516 rockets and missiles at Israel during the conflict.

                    The spokesman warned that the Fatah groups would "continue to defend the heroic Palestinian people against Israeli crimes and massacres." According to the spokesman, Fatah gunmen fought alongside members of other groups in the Gaza Strip during the IDF offensive.

                    He urged Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal to "head immediately to the Gaza Strip to put an end to the state of despicable state of division [between Hamas and Fatah]."

                    The Fatah groups also "welcomed" last week's terror attack against a civilian bus in Tel Aviv, in which 21 people were injured. The masked Fatah spokesman revealed that a member of his group, Mohamed al-Zaini, who was responsible for launching rockets and missiles at Israel, was killed in an IDF air strike.

                    Abbas Zaki, member of the Fatah Central Committee, was quoted over the weekend as praising Hamas and Islamic Jihad for "deciding to die for the sake of the Gaza Strip."

                    Zaki said in an interview with a Palestinian TV station in the West Bank that Abbas was not against the "resistance" in the Gaza Strip.

                    "We gave legitimacy to the rockets and provided them with a political cover," he added. "I have tremendous sympathy for Hamas. God bless them. They told Israel that the war was not a picnic. God bless Hamas and Islamic Jihad and all the other resistance groups which decided to die for the sake of the Gaza Strip.
                    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                    • Israel's "partners in peace" chime in with their own contribution.

                      Fatah: We also fought against Israel in Pillar of Defense
                      By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
                      24/11/2012
                      Gaza-based armed groups tied to Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party claim they fired 516 rockets at Israel during recent conflict; Fatah Central Committee member praises Hamas, Islamic Jihad, says Abbas was not against the "resistance."

                      Several armed groups belonging to Fatah in the Gaza Strip claimed Saturday that they had also fired various types of rockets and missiles at Israel during Operation Pillar of Defense.

                      A spokesman for the groups, which are affiliated with Fatah's armed wing, Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, told reporters that his men fired 516 rockets and missiles at Israel during the conflict.

                      The spokesman warned that the Fatah groups would "continue to defend the heroic Palestinian people against Israeli crimes and massacres." According to the spokesman, Fatah gunmen fought alongside members of other groups in the Gaza Strip during the IDF offensive.

                      He urged Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal to "head immediately to the Gaza Strip to put an end to the state of despicable state of division [between Hamas and Fatah]."

                      The Fatah groups also "welcomed" last week's terror attack against a civilian bus in Tel Aviv, in which 21 people were injured. The masked Fatah spokesman revealed that a member of his group, Mohamed al-Zaini, who was responsible for launching rockets and missiles at Israel, was killed in an IDF air strike.

                      Abbas Zaki, member of the Fatah Central Committee, was quoted over the weekend as praising Hamas and Islamic Jihad for "deciding to die for the sake of the Gaza Strip."

                      Zaki said in an interview with a Palestinian TV station in the West Bank that Abbas was not against the "resistance" in the Gaza Strip.

                      "We gave legitimacy to the rockets and provided them with a political cover," he added. "I have tremendous sympathy for Hamas. God bless them. They told Israel that the war was not a picnic. God bless Hamas and Islamic Jihad and all the other resistance groups which decided to die for the sake of the Gaza Strip.


                      Of course, Fatah will on occasion condemn terror attacks unreservedly. And the right audience will buy it.
                      "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                      • What do you expect them to say? Abbas is at severe risk of losing power completely due to Hamas claiming victory as a result of resistance. Fatah like Israel are in an impossible situation right now. Pushing against them right now would be idiotic in the extreme.

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                        • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                          Who is occupying their "country?" Israel doesn't have anyone in the Gaza Strip.
                          Do you not understand the root of the conflict?
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            Do you not understand the root of the conflict?
                            I think he understands it better than you do, if you really think it's all about "stolen land".
                            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                            • Just don't count on the U.N. butt munchers to do anything of worth.
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                                Who is occupying their "country?" Israel doesn't have anyone in the Gaza Strip.
                                Israel may not be directly occupying the Gaza Strip, but it's doing so many other things to economically strangle that land. Which partly explains why the Gaza Strip has such a soaring, high level of poverty and unemployment.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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