Is the Republican party done?

[-Jrabbit]

Why do people call History "liberal arts"? It has nothing to do with liberal arts. It has to do with history. Sociology, perhaps, if you want to go that direction, but certainly not liberal arts.

They call it that so that future lawyers and businessmen can fulfill their liberal arts requirement without taking soc, psych, or anthro.

[-Jrabbit]

I don't profess to be an expert in Chinese and Korean immigrant cultures just because I ****ed Chinese and Korean girls before I met my wife.

You should. And don't forget women's issues.

[Felch]

Well, you do know that Pakistan and China border each other, right?

You do know that only a few mountain passes actually connect the two countries, and that they are all miles above sea level, right?

It's real easy to criticize HC for his shallow arguments, but so far you've claimed that Asians aren't Christian (certainly a surprise the 45% of Asian Americans who are Christian), and acted like the Himalayas are irrelevant to human identity. Pakistan and China sharing a border doesn't mean that they necessarily had a lot of historical contact, or that they should be lumped together into a broad ethnic grouping.

[MRT144]

Question: Why should Republicans do anything to change (Since obviously they're right on the issues unlike those libtards)? Reading some comments on conservative websites it seems like a lot of Republicans aren't in the next election mode yet and are predicting things like Obama crowning himself king.

[giblets]

You do know that only a few mountain passes actually connect the two countries, and that they are all miles above sea level, right?

It's real easy to criticize HC for his shallow arguments, but so far you've claimed that Asians aren't Christian (certainly a surprise the 45% of Asian Americans who are Christian), and acted like the Himalayas are irrelevant to human identity. Pakistan and China sharing a border doesn't mean that they necessarily had a lot of historical contact, or that they should be lumped together into a broad ethnic grouping.

If only 45% of Asian Americans are Christian then that could certainly account for them being more likely to vote for Democrats than the nation as a whole. His comment was valid.

[Felch]

Asian Americans, more 2nd generation and beyond, tend to be more socially liberal (as they are culturally more like highly educated whites).

Also, they aren't Christian and get scared sometimes of the overt Christianity, which has become more openly pronounced, of the Republican party (remember George W. Bush, while openly Evangelical, took GREAT pains to make sure he respected people of all faiths).

Imran didn't say, "They are less likely to be Christian than the general American population." He explicitly said that they weren't Christian, even though a plurality of Asian American are. Defend that all you want, it's Alby levels of ignorant.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Whatever... they more likely than not to be Christian, if that makes your pedanticness feel any better (esp considering I'm an Asian Christian).

[Felch]

I'm just showing you the same love you show HC and Alby.

[Krill]

Poll a bunch of Americans if they think this guy is "Middle Eastern" or "Asian":

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In America, most people, even if they knew where he was from, would say he's Middle Eastern, while Brits would probably call him Asian. I'm not saying that Pakistan isn't in Asia, and according to the census definition he is Asian, but I've never heard an American refer to anybody from Pakistan as Asian. Hell, most Americans, even reasonably well informed ones, would say Indonesians are Middle Eastern. Middle Eastern and Muslim are that bound up in the American psyche.

In the end, it's a matter of whether you think English is a proscriptive or descriptive language.

I'd call him a ****ing person and not try to shove him in a box.

[MrFun]

Okay, how about a serious post from me. Here's what I think the Republican party could do, to rehabilitate itself.

1. Sever their relationship with the religious-right fringe and Tea Party. Seriously; you don't need pathological bigots as a voting demographic to win elections.

2. Find an effective way to reach out to racial minority groups such as blacks and Hispanics. Continuing to ignore them in your party's efforts to reach out to your traditional groups will continue to come with costs.

3. Publicly and affirmatively welcome and accept gay conservatives such as GOProud, and Log Cabin Republicans. Many of them support you for time being, but continuing to take their votes for granted without including them in campaign events and appearances and talking with them on issues will just alienate more conservative gays who may start to feel that the Republican party does not want them under their so-call "big" tent.

4. Abandon homophobic stances on social issues concerning gay people. Gay marriage will not destroy the fabric of American society. Giving gay people equal employment protection will not allow gay people to have public sex at their workplaces. Keeping the reversal of DADT intact is not having any detrimental effect on military morale or their combat effectiveness. This will give independent gay voters and just-to-left gay voters actual, meaningful choices between voting for Democratic candidates or Republican candidates.

5. Stop your war on women. Women have the same right to make their own healthcare decisions regarding their own bodies as men do. Abortion is legal in America, nor do contraceptives kill babies; get over it. There were a significant increase in women who voted for Democrats over Republicans this campaign year because many of them were offended by proposals to have men make healthcare decisions for women.


Of course, Republican politicians and their party can continue to just ignore these voting demographic groups, and keep winning with just white male voters. That just means every presidential election and Congress election from here on out, you are bound to win less and less elections as our country continues to become more diverse.

[Hauldren Collider]

Well, you do know that Pakistan and China border each other, right?

Yes, I do. I also know exactly how pakistan was formed. They did cover that in history

[Hauldren Collider]

Wait, HC, you're saying Pakistani and Chinese shouldn't be grouped together, but Chinese and Japanese should?

Obviously. What do Pakistan and China have in common? What do Japan and China have in common? If we're identifying cultural regions of Asia, it's pretty obvious that Japan and China occupy the same one.

[giblets]

Imran didn't say, "They are less likely to be Christian than the general American population." He explicitly said that they weren't Christian, even though a plurality of Asian American are. Defend that all you want, it's Alby levels of ignorant.

A majority of them are not Christian. Cry all you want but the generalization he made wasn't any worse than any other generalization.

[Asher]

Obviously. What do Pakistan and China have in common?

Effective dictatorships.

What do Japan and China have in common?

Physical appearances.

[giblets]

MrFun, given that they can't stop the religious right, racists, homophobes and misogynists from voting in their primaries, your suggestions don't strike me as serious.