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  • #661
    A middle ground is only reasonable if it is actually preferable to either of the extremes. An assault weapons ban, while some here have said means banning fully automatic weapons, usually refers to just the "furniture" of the gun. Does it have a pistol-like handgrip? Does it have a detachable magazine? These things are not actually terribly important to the lethality or danger of the weapon, and are trivial to modify for a criminal if they decide that they really need a forward hand grip for their rampage.

    They certainly give you an edge in combat; there is a reason soldiers have them on their weapons. But that edge is fairly irrelevant against civilians.
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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    • #662
      No, but I would bet that there are quite a few people would would support a ban on assault weapons if they weren't brainwashed that it was just first step towards total restrictions on all weapons.
      I'm talking more general common sense. How many babies would you save if you restricted abortions 20 seconds before birth. I would bet 0, and I doubt you'd find many pro-lifers that would have a big problem with it except for the fact that they would think if they agree to that restriction, it opens the door for many more restrictions.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #663
        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        A middle ground is only reasonable if it is actually preferable to either of the extremes. An assault weapons ban, while some here have said means banning fully automatic weapons, usually refers to just the "furniture" of the gun. Does it have a pistol-like handgrip? Does it have a detachable magazine? These things are not actually terribly important to the lethality or danger of the weapon, and are trivial to modify for a criminal if they decide that they really need a forward hand grip for their rampage.

        They certainly give you an edge in combat; there is a reason soldiers have them on their weapons. But that edge is fairly irrelevant against civilians.
        Unless you know the civilians are packing too.
        "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
        'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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        • #664
          Civilians don't "pack" assault rifles

          Hard to fit them into a concealed-carry case
          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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          • #665
            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            Civilians don't "pack" assault rifles

            Hard to fit them into a concealed-carry case
            I always thing a violin case has a 50/50 chance of containing a sub machine gun.
            "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
            'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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            • #666
              Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
              I always thing a violin case has a 50/50 chance of containing a sub machine gun.
              http://youtu.be/Hyph_DZa_GQ?t=2m20s
              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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              • #667
                This one is for you Guy: Marco Rubio Heads to Iowa. 2016 Starting Already?
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #668
                  If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                  • #669
                    Man, I hate Iowa.
                    "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                    'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                    • #670
                      Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                      Man, I hate Iowa.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #671
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                        This one is for you Guy: Marco Rubio Heads to Iowa. 2016 Starting Already?
                        You are a bad person.
                        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                        • #672
                          Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                          You are a bad person.
                          I was hoping to bring a bit of sunshine to your day.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #673
                            Nice to see I was right about my town. While Paul Ryan retained his seat, he lost his 'hometown' 13,849 to 16,970. Great job, Janesville!
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                            1992-Perot , 1996-Perot , 2000-Bush , 2004-Bush :|, 2008-Obama :|, 2012-Obama , 2016-Clinton , 2020-Biden

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                            • #674
                              Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                              I always thing a violin case has a 50/50 chance of containing a sub machine gun.

                              Really hard to fit ARs and AKs in a violin case, and most Americans don't have submachine guns because they are restricted NFA items.


                              Even semi-automatic carbines like Kel-tecs are not common, but in that case because Kel-tec only makes like 5 of them a year. :P
                              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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