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  • You guys are walking, talking facepalms.

    Don't change. Ever.

    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • lol so we explain how you are wrong, clearly and completely, and we are the walking facepalms?

      Shooting down an airliner is actually pretty hard. When the Russians shot KAL-007 it stayed aloft for like, 20 minutes, and that was with an air-to-air missile.

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      • Originally posted by Sava View Post
        You guys are walking, talking facepalms.

        Don't change. Ever.

        Says the person that apparently gets his knowledge of science and engineering from action movies.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
          lol so we explain how you are wrong, clearly and completely, and we are the walking facepalms?
          That's not what you did.

          Both you and Felch offered your usual unsupported, uneducated, misinformed and inexperienced opinions.

          The danger from pistol caliber rounds is quite severe. We're talking about larger rounds with more energy... and somehow... that's no danger.

          In movies, bad guys can take over an airplane and start shooting up the place. Wouldn't the plane explode or depressurize as soon as the bullet pierced its skin?


          And it has absolutely nothing to do with military aircraft. I don't know why you are hanging your hat on that tangent.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • The amount of information on this is staggering. Just google "hole in airplane".

              When a plane loses pressure, the result is a noisy, terrifying scene in which passengers can be, and have been, sucked out of a plane. After a 5-ft.


              Such large holes can happen as a result of stress fractures in the skin.

              The attack could happen on takeoff and not be noticed until a plane as at altitude.

              Dear lord, there are so many different things that could happen. The round could impact wiring and disable any number of systems.

              But the idiots think bullet holes in planes are perfectly safe. No surprise there.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                I'm stupid.
                Agree.


                also, from the Time link:

                “Depending on the size of the hole, explosive decompression can occur,” says Nihad Daidzic, a professor of aviation at Minnesota State University who has witnessed simulations of depressurization. “Within seconds you’ll get condensation. The pressure and the temperature will drop very quickly. Debris will be flying around, and people can get sucked out.”
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                  mythbusters video
                  The article I posted directly addressed this.

                  The Discovery show Mythbusters took up this issue of depressurization a few years ago and disproved the myth (often seen in movies) that a hole in a window or the fuselage will automatically cause people to get sucked through. Again, it all comes down to size and immediacy: if the hole is big enough and people are close enough, anything can happen.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                    The article I posted directly addressed this.
                    So you agree that the statement you made here was the result of scientific illiteracy and possibly too many action movies:
                    Originally posted by Sava View Post
                    Firing a gun inside a plane (a pistol round) is enough of a danger that could result in an explosive decompression... possibly leading to a larger structural failure.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                      So you agree that the statement you made here was the result of scientific illiteracy and possibly too many action movies:
                      I don't even know what sort of moronic pedantry you are engaging in now.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • If you shot a pistol round through the body of the aircraft when it was at altitude the oxygen masks would drop and the passengers would put them on and everyone would be fine.

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                        • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                          That's not what you did.

                          Both you and Felch offered your usual unsupported, uneducated, misinformed and inexperienced opinions.

                          The danger from pistol caliber rounds is quite severe. We're talking about larger rounds with more energy... and somehow... that's no danger.

                          In movies, bad guys can take over an airplane and start shooting up the place. Wouldn't the plane explode or depressurize as soon as the bullet pierced its skin?


                          And it has absolutely nothing to do with military aircraft. I don't know why you are hanging your hat on that tangent.
                          A .50 cal round would go in one side, out the other, unless it hit some critical component it would do no damage and everything it could hit exists at least in duplicate.

                          You'd have a tiny window at takeoff to shoot the plane and bring it down. You'd have to disable both engines or kill both pilots.

                          also


                          (Lonestar and Felch will appreciate this)

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                          • Originally posted by Sava View Post
                            I don't even know what sort of moronic pedantry you are engaging in now.
                            I'm trying to get you to admit that you were wrong, Ben. You've gone from hand wringing about pistol rounds piercing the skin of the plan to pointing out that 5ft holes in a plane can indeed cause explosive decompression. It's just sad to see you reduce yourself to that BK.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                              If you shot a pistol round through the body of the aircraft when it was at altitude the oxygen masks would drop and the passengers would put them on and everyone would be fine.
                              This is one possible scenario.

                              But I wouldn't want to be on a plane and find out for myself.

                              This might be the dumbest I've ever seen you on these boards. You are really under the impression that an attack involving .50 rounds being fired at a plane would absolutely not result in a catastrophic situation, aren't you?

                              How do you manage to even complete basic tasks without the assistance of a trained professional making sure you don't kill yourself?
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                                I'm trying to get you to admit that you were wrong, Ben.
                                But I wasn't. And I'm not.

                                I'll use small words for you since you seem confused, as usual.

                                Firing bullets at a plane is dangerous. The plane could crash.

                                What about this is controversial?

                                Or do you guys just argue the dumbest possible things in a poor attempt at trolling?
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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