So where's the Presidential Debate Thread?

[giblets]

Upcoming Daily Show Interview:

“When four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.” Raising the question how many Americans does it take getting killed to be optimal?

2,977. In that case, the President's approval rating skyrockets and he wins reelection.

[Kidlicious]

I agree with this. I don't really see it as a big deal.

I do, however, think liberals are making a horrible mistake on focusing on "Big Bird" and "Binders Full of Women". Most people know politicians make gaffes. And these things take away from the issues on where you want to hammer Romney.

I think gaffes have the potential to hurt a politician, particularly when they show his/her character. What was the Hillary Clinton gaffe that seemed to hurt her, about her working in a warzone or something, and they found footage of her waving like a politician?

[-Jrabbit]

Yeah, I believe she claimed she was under fire in Kosovo.

I swear, exaggeration and outright lies are just ingrained in the DNA of politicians.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

2,977. In that case, the President's approval rating skyrockets and he wins reelection.

Thats all fine and well, but since he also claimed he was going to fix it that only gives him 19 more days to get 2973 more Americans killed. Personally I don't see the wisdom in threatening the American public, but hey he's playing chess in the 7th dimension by now.

[MrFun]

I agree with this. I don't really see it as a big deal.

I do, however, think liberals are making a horrible mistake on focusing on "Big Bird" and "Binders Full of Women". Most people know politicians make gaffes. And these things take away from the issues on where you want to hammer Romney.

I agree in that we should not focus on gaffes or photo ops blunders entirely at the expense of the real issues. But I see the humor in the idea that some people think we can work toward reducing our deficit by killing Big Bird, rather than cutting pork spending for defense contractors.

And sometimes, photo ops blunders can reveal the real person, such as in this instance:



Cleaning one or two pots that are already clean at a homeless shelter doesn't mean you care about the homeless. It means you're a fake.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oh no, a photo op was staged!! This is the first time its ever happened!

[giblets]

Wage-gap debate questioner Katherine Fenton “absolutely not” a feminist

It took roughly 30 seconds after she asked about the wage gap last night for the right to start calling Katherine Fenton a left-wing conspiracy, vainly trying to connect her to someone who worked for Code Pink, calling her a “feminazi,” and a “party girl.” Reached by Salon at her home in Floral Park, N.Y., today, Fenton confirmed that she’s no plant. She is, she says, a 24-year-old pre-K teacher and an undecided voter. Still undecided, in fact. And not a feminist.

Here’s what Fenton asked last night: “In what new ways do you intend to rectify inequalities in the workplace? Specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn.”

So why is she undecided? Talking to Fenton today was an exercise in the frustrations and incoherences of such voters. She says she approves of Obama’s health insurance reform, since it’s allowed her to stay on her parents’ insurance. “That’s been really critical, especially for me,” she said. “I’ve had some medical things that I’ve had to get tested and had to go to the doctor fairly often.”

But she also says she’s worried about the deficit: “$16 trillion in debt is a huge figure.” And she’s torn on the question of whether she’s better off than four years ago. “While I’m feeling healthy and safe and comfortable, I can’t really feel the same about our nation.” And she claims to be dissatisfied with the answer she got from both candidates: “I asked for new solutions, not what they’ve already done.”

Despite asking a question that raised the hackles of the anti-feminist brigade, Fenton was vehement when I asked her if she’s a feminist. “Absolutely not,” she said. “I’m a 24-year-old woman that lives in the United States and feels like I should be treated the same as anyone else. That makes me a normal human being.”

I asked her to clarify how she defined feminism, given that she’d told me she was passionate about “women’s equality in the workforce” and had said, “I’m very protective of my reproductive rights.” Fenton said, “I’m not only concerned with women.”

Did she think that one candidate would be better for women? “That’s hard to say,” she said. “I can only speculate, but if I had to guess, gosh, my gut says President Obama. Based on the fact that he has said, I know he has two daughters so the cause is close to him. Governor Romney has granddaughters, that might help.” She thought more. On the wage gap, she said vaguely, “I think people around the president making choices would be more more susceptible to action on that. I don’t think Mitt Romney’s people might be as concerned as they ought to be.”

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/17/wage_gap_debate_questioner_katherine_fenton_absolutely_not_a_feminist/

How did "feminist" get to be such a dirty word?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Oh no, a photo op was staged!! This is the first time its ever happened!

Yes but this one is different because it shows a politician is fake. Who'ld have thunk?

[DinoDoc]

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/17/wage...ot_a_feminist/

How did "feminist" get to be such a dirty word?

One would think that the wage gap is largely overstated would have been the larger point for critics of that question.

[DaShi]

If that were true.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

How did "feminist" get to be such a dirty word?

About the same time as liberal, when the meaning of the words took a different take then originally implied.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

One would think that the wage gap is largely overstated would have been the larger point for critics of that question.

If that were true.

He's got you on that one.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...e-white-house/

[DaShi]

OMG! Extreme right-leaning opinion writer agrees with DD!

In other news, Ogie decides to do away with his remaining credibility.

[giblets]

Someone should get Obama a binder full of women then.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

OMG! Right-leaning opinion writer agrees with DD!

Own goal. Nope with you.

In other news, knee jerk barking response illustrates poster dementia and inability to read.