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  • Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
    Next time I go to Calgary I'll look at the engineering of the stadium and I'll visit your curved office building. Maybe there are things to do in Calgary after all.
    I'd appreciate it if you did not visit Calgary.

    We have enough arrogant Americans. Something like 10% of the population these days are yanks.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
      Err...?

      The growth which has been sustained for decades now isn't sustainable?
      Of course. As you said, Calgary was growing faster than Canada as a whole. That can't go on forever - it's logically impossible anyway, but there are complex economic forces that bring these long-term trends to abrupt reversals. Basically, Calgary is a bubble.

      I don't want to explain economics to you, as you know everything. Since you know everything, I'm sure you know oil is boom and bust, yeah?

      Calgary has seen lean times before and we've survived just fine. By lean, I mean a shrinking city with massive unemployment. I don't have time to teach you the fundamentals of the energy economic (something which in all honesty, you simply do not comprehend as we've seen in prior threads), but you should at least take a cursory look at what the Calgary economy has been through post-1970.
      That's exactly the problem. The only thing of value in Calgary is the nearby oil, which means that low tax and spending policies promote bubbles that will put it through the same hard times again (but even worse because now it has further to fall).

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      • Originally posted by Asher View Post
        We have enough arrogant Americans.
        We noticed.

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        • Kuci's talking about real-world economics here that you can only learn from a lot of experience.

          Anyway, in my experience, it was hard to get around in Calgary. They probably need more infrastructure, but who is going to pay for that without upsetting the delicate balance of taxing, spending and growth? These issues are really complex, and Kuci's right to be worried about Calgary's long-term growth.
          "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

          Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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          • Originally posted by Asher View Post


            The Saddledome has some of the best acoustics of any major stadium in North America.
            Some of the best sightlines, too.



            It's actually a rather excellent example of Calgary's engineering-first architecture. It wasn't designed that way to be sexy - it was designed that way for sightlines and acoustics.
            What's the point of having a pringles chip shaped engineering marvel if no team worth watching plays there?

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            • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
              That's exactly the problem. The only thing of value in Calgary is the nearby oil, which means that low tax and spending policies promote bubbles that will put it through the same hard times again (but even worse because now it has further to fall).
              The oil actually isn't near Calgary, it's near Edmonton.

              Calgary is a white-collar down full of engineers and businesspeople. It's definitely extremely energy-heavy, but not just oil. There's also natural gas (far bigger in Alberta than most people know).

              In the event that no one needs oil anytime soon (unlikely, especially given China's VERY aggressive moves into Alberta), the economy would be hurting again.

              But you're still not saying anything of substance. What is Calgary doing wrong?
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
                Kuci's talking about real-world economics here that you can only learn from a lot of experience.

                Anyway, in my experience, it was hard to get around in Calgary. They probably need more infrastructure, but who is going to pay for that without upsetting the delicate balance of taxing, spending and growth? These issues are really complex, and Kuci's right to be worried about Calgary's long-term growth.
                I'm trying to figure out if you're trying to:
                1) Be funny
                2) Troll
                3) Be insightful

                Either way: Fail; Fail; Fail.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  The oil actually isn't near Calgary, it's near Edmonton.

                  Calgary is a white-collar down full of engineers and businesspeople. It's definitely extremely energy-heavy, but not just oil. There's also natural gas (far bigger in Alberta than most people know).

                  In the event that no one needs oil anytime soon (unlikely, especially given China's VERY aggressive moves into Alberta), the economy would be hurting again.

                  But you're still not saying anything of substance. What is Calgary doing wrong?
                  It's understandable that living in the same place as long as you have has given you a limited view of economics. I've actually lived in cities undergoing booms, busts, and the transition between the two. American policymakers generally understand how to deal with these things and that the answer isn't just "cut taxes!" Eventually, I'm sure Canadian policymakers will figure these things out too.

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                  • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                    What's the point of having a pringles chip shaped engineering marvel if no team worth watching plays there?
                    Concerts!
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • It's just an opinion; you don't have to get so worked up about it. Calm down.
                      "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                      Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                      • Oh, so there's oil AND natural gas! And cattle too! Basically what you're telling us is that Alberta is a cross between West Texas and Montana.

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                        • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                          Concerts!
                          Concerts with Nickelback and k.d. lang?

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                          • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                            It's understandable that living in the same place as long as you have has given you a limited view of economics. I've actually lived in cities undergoing booms, busts, and the transition between the two. American policymakers generally understand how to deal with these things and that the answer isn't just "cut taxes!" Eventually, I'm sure Canadian policymakers will figure these things out too.
                            You're still talking a lot but saying nothing. Again, you're not fooling anyone, Kuci.

                            Calgary isn't "cutting taxes". In fact, they just raised them slightly. You're confusing Calgary with the GOP. Calgary balances the budget to meet what we need, which is in direct contrast to most American Conservative politics which amount to "Cut taxes!!!!".

                            You do not understand this issue, like many others.

                            FWIW, I've lived in the Bay Area (4 years) and Toronto (5 years) in addition to Calgary (the rest). My extended family is from what is essentially the Canadian Detroit (Windsor/St. Thomas). Calgary itself has been through intense booms, devastating busts, and periods of no growth while I've lived here. To pretend like Calgary is always the same is to expose even more of your ignorance.

                            Where exactly have you lived? Privileged Virginia and Dirty Pittsburgh?
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
                              It's just an opinion; you don't have to get so worked up about it. Calm down.
                              I'm not worked up. I'm ridiculing an ignoramus.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • Originally posted by Asher View Post


                                The Saddledome has some of the best acoustics of any major stadium in North America.
                                Some of the best sightlines, too.



                                It's actually a rather excellent example of Calgary's engineering-first architecture. It wasn't designed that way to be sexy - it was designed that way for sightlines and acoustics.
                                It looks hideous.

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