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  • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
    The question was posed to the poster of the picture (still waiting on his response).

    But thanks.
    The poster responded immediately, look at the post.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • A third embassy has been over run, this time in Yeman:

      In Sana, the capital of Yemen, witnesses said government security forces tried to disperse a crowd at the fortified American Embassy compound in the eastern part of the city. But protesters succeeded in breaking through an outer perimeter protecting the embassy, clambering over a high wall and setting fire to a building.

      They were forced to retreat after trying to plunder furniture and computers, the witnesses said.

      Security forces guarding the embassy fired into the air as protesters set two vehicles alight and burned tires. Protesters tore down and burned an American flag, replacing it with their own banner proclaiming the Islamic faith, witnesses said.
      More here.
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
        The poster responded immediately, look at the post.
        Sorry dude but I don't go back and reread earlier posts on the off chance they might have been edited.

        My original post wasn't so much a challenge as a curious question as I was open to the possibilty it could be seen another way. The cell phone in the mouth was the part I had trouble with. It seemed a strange thing to do while dead body dragging...
        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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        • New levels of absurdity. The Iranians are protesting at the SWISS embassy. Why? It's legitimately possible that zero Swiss people had seen the "trailer," much less the "movie," prior to two days ago.
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          • Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
            http://af.reuters.com/article/commod...8KD6ER20120913

            New levels of absurdity. The Iranians are protesting at the SWISS embassy. Why? It's legitimately possible that zero Swiss people had seen the "trailer," much less the "movie," prior to two days ago.
            To be fair, there's plenty of ignorance in the other direction as well. Remember when we thought a company from Dubai, of all places, was a security risk? Because, y'know, all those Ay-rabs think and act alike, even the ones from Arab Disneyland. Probably they have similar ideas about white infidels. The main difference is that IIRC we didn't literally riot over it.

            EDIT: Also, the Shiite clerics of Iran might have been helping AQ in Iraq. And a batch of Sufis totally wanted to promote violent jihad at the mosque they were building directly atop Ground Zero.
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            • I'm sorry but preventing a foreign company from buying a port is a bit different than trying to breach an embassy compound. Let's not start playing moral equivalences until a mob of angry Americans slaughters some Arab UN representatives.
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              • Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
                http://af.reuters.com/article/commod...8KD6ER20120913

                New levels of absurdity. The Iranians are protesting at the SWISS embassy. Why? It's legitimately possible that zero Swiss people had seen the "trailer," much less the "movie," prior to two days ago.
                They said on the radio over here that usa does not have an embassy in iran and that the swiss one basicly work as a us embassy aswell. its still funny tho.

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                • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  I'm sorry but preventing a foreign company from buying a port is a bit different than trying to breach an embassy compound. Let's not start playing moral equivalences until a mob of angry Americans slaughters some Arab UN representatives.
                  Is killing a bunch of Afghans, urinating on their remains and being stupid enough to post pics of the entire event on the internet good enough as an equivalent for you?

                  Too many other examples are availble.
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                  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    I'm sorry but preventing a foreign company from buying a port is a bit different than trying to breach an embassy compound. Let's not start playing moral equivalences until a mob of angry Americans slaughters some Arab UN representatives.
                    There havent been embassy invasions but there have been a fair number of attacks on muslims in the US following politicians using anti-muslim rhetoric, and some horrible 'protests' outside muslim gatherings. There was one last year IIRC where a howling crowd were waiting to shout obscenities and religious insults at muslim families as they left a meeting. It's not at the same level as the current story, but there's plenty of the same tendancies visible.

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                    • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                      I'm sorry but preventing a foreign company from buying a port is a bit different than trying to breach an embassy compound. Let's not start playing moral equivalences until a mob of angry Americans slaughters some Arab UN representatives.
                      He never claimed they were morally equivalent. You appear to have missed the point.

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                      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        This is why the smart folks get diplomatic postings in places like Bermuda and New Zealand where nothing happens.
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                        • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                          The proximate cause was an offensive movie. If people kill Americans over an offensive movie, then it's fair to say that they hate our freedoms. If they had their way, we wouldn't be free to make the movies we want to make.
                          I don't disagree with the logic, but the problem I have with it is that it can be applied to so many things that it becomes empty.

                          Consider, Asher hates Ben because of his unpleasant posts. He would gladly have Ben not post his ideology. Does he hate Ben because of his freedom of speech? Yes, but it misses the point.

                          Or consider a man calls a woman a filthy whore. The woman's husband hates the man for saying that and punches him and demands no more such speak. Does the husband hate freedom of speech? Again, yes, but misses the point.
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                          • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            I'm sorry but preventing a foreign company from buying a port is a bit different than trying to breach an embassy compound. Let's not start playing moral equivalences until a mob of angry Americans slaughters some Arab UN representatives.
                            You missed the point. I'll spell it out for you. Elok was talking about prejudice and ignorance, not that the two events are morally equivalent.
                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                              I don't disagree with the logic, but the problem I have with it is that it can be applied to so many things that it becomes empty.

                              Consider, Asher hates Ben because of his unpleasant posts. He would gladly have Ben not post his ideology. Does he hate Ben because of his freedom of speech? Yes, but it misses the point.

                              Or consider a man calls a woman a filthy whore. The woman's husband hates the man for saying that and punches him and demands no more such speak. Does the husband hate freedom of speech? Again, yes, but misses the point.
                              That was very well put. It sounds like - from some of what I've read - that many of the people are misinformed, and believe that large numbers of Americans actually know or promote this "film," when in fact none of us have heard of it, and it looks like it was made by a lone, not-so-bright Copt with no budget, as opposed to an actual established American director.

                              So they believe we're insulting them in force.
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                              • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                                Which is exactly the point of why we continue to be sucked into a situation that while deplorable, will in no way change by our trying to help.
                                It doesn't matter that the vast majority aren't terrorists and actually would like to have the assistance. It doesn't matter if the minority hold a marked advantage in weapons.
                                It doesn't matter that we're fortunate enough to not live that way, so screw them. Right?
                                Right.
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