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  • #46
    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
    To make an analogy to criminal justice, even if you are innocent, a lot of the time your attorney will recommend you cut a deal and plead guilty.
    I would never have a client plead to the max. I'd make them prove it. Deals are only for something "lesser"

    Lance Armstrong is probably the single most tested athlete in history because the French can't stand the thought of an American winning their tournament.
    See my answer to TMM above.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
      Lance Armstrong is probably the single most tested athlete in history because the French can't stand the thought of an American winning their tournament.
      Yeah, that's probably it.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Asher View Post
        The physical trophies don't mean much if you know you didn't earn it.
        Then why would anyone bother to cheat?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by DaShi View Post
          Can't believe I'm on the side of the nutjobs on this issue. I need to reevaluate things...

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          • #50
            Do the USADA even have the power to strip him of titles? I thought only the UCI had that power...well, them and CAS.
            You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gribbler View Post
              Then why would anyone bother to cheat?
              Fame and renown and sponsorships. Most people know he didn't win fairly now, so he didn't actually win.
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              • #52
                compared to Neil Armstrong, this guy is a putz
                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
                  compared to Neil Armstrong, damn near everybody is a putz
                  FTFY
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    So? He did it with only one testicle!
                    So? Do they pedal with their testicles?

                    ACK!
                    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                    • #55
                      Apparently his blood and urine samples were tampered with at the lab.
                      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                        First, co-accused testify against one another all the time. If you think this is unfair you could streamline you judicial system overnight.


                        Secondly, you act as if a positive test is the only legitimate evidence.


                        Wrong on both counts my friend.
                        Thirdly, The US attorney in LA just finished a two year investigation without filing charges.

                        Fourthly, neither the ICU nor the ACO is taking this at face value.

                        Fifthly, the judge that threw out Armstrong's case said that he had, and I quote, “misgivings about USADA’s conduct leading up to and during this case,” and said the agency was “acting according to less noble motives.”

                        Sixthly, this defense would likely have lasted until 2016 and cost further millions.

                        You need to see the whole picture.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          He isn't bothering to fight the charges, that doesn't mean he did it.
                          riiiiiight
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                          • #58
                            When you're diagnosed with cancer and get a second chance, you've got nothing to lose.

                            He may only have one cojone, but it's gigante...
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                            • #59
                              He raised much money and made much money. "Lance on penalty: 'Nobody needs to cry for me'".
                              I hear people saying they would never quit fighting if the allegations were false, but you know what? Life is short. Screw it.
                              Who are they going to give the medals to? The 2nd place finishers all turned up dirty. I'm a fighter, generally, but at some point, you just have to decide if it's worth it.
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                              • #60
                                i wouldn't say he was cheat, I would he was a chemically challenged champion, like just about everyone in elite professional cycling
                                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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