What document is a proof of American citizenship?

[Al B. Sure!]

You'd need ID to claim your welfare?

Yes. You do need ID to receive social welfare benefits.


Frankly, this Black people don't have ID's thing is incredibly bizarre to me because I know a lot of Black guys who SPECIFICALLY make sure they always have their ID's on them because they know they could be targeted by police and having an ID can mean the difference between the cops letting you go or them taking you to the station.

[regexcellent]

So what you're saying is the only means by which you could have a livelihood (if you can call it that) without identification is through illegal work or the good graces of friends, neighbors, and relatives.

[Al B. Sure!]

So what you're saying is the only means by which you could have a livelihood (if you can call it that) without identification is through illegal work or the good graces of friends, neighbors, and relatives.

You need a photo ID for...

legal employment
cashing a check
opening a back account
receiving social welfare benefits

Yeah. I'd say you're right.

And instead of focusing on why people don't have ID's and getting them this necessary instrument (maybe by supporting this voter ID law that subsidizes ID's), Democrats want to say wah! people don't have ID's so they're being disenfranchised.


My brain is struggling to comprehend the Democratic position and I just can't. On facebook, I get called racist.

[Tuberski]

You need a driver's license to drive a car. Every single store I've ever been to that sells alcohol or tobacco requires one as a matter of course.

You have to swipe your license to start your car?

Stores require one, but most don't ask for it, of course I look older than 21.

ACK!

[Hauldren Collider]

If you get in an accident or get pulled over, it's a real pain in the ass if you don't have your license. It's just a bad idea to drive without it.

[regexcellent]

If you get in an accident or get pulled over, it's a real pain in the ass if you don't have your license. It's just a bad idea to drive without it.

That's not even the point. The point is that if you are legally allowed to drive that car, whether you drive with your license on your person or not, you have a license and therefore you have a photo ID with which you can vote.

[kentonio]

You need a photo ID for...

legal employment
cashing a check
opening a back account
receiving social welfare benefits

Yeah. I'd say you're right.

And instead of focusing on why people don't have ID's and getting them this necessary instrument (maybe by supporting this voter ID law that subsidizes ID's), Democrats want to say wah! people don't have ID's so they're being disenfranchised.


My brain is struggling to comprehend the Democratic position and I just can't. On facebook, I get called racist.

Two quick questions, firstly what photo ID is required for legal employment? Also, do photo ID's not have a validity dates on them? Things like opening bank accounts are things many people only do once. Many people wouldn't have opened a new account for decades and probably wouldn't have needed a photo ID back when they did.

[Hauldren Collider]

You usually need your driver's license and social security number to fill out all the required forms. Some require you to fill out a proof of residency which requires a birth certificate or passport in addition to driver's license.

[Al B. Sure!]

You usually need your driver's license and social security number to fill out all the required forms. Some require you to fill out a proof of residency which requires a birth certificate or passport in addition to driver's license.

Stop saying driver's license. A non-drivers State ID is perfectly valid. You're spreading misinformation.

Two quick questions, firstly what photo ID is required for legal employment? Also, do photo ID's not have a validity dates on them? Things like opening bank accounts are things many people only do once. Many people wouldn't have opened a new account for decades and probably wouldn't have needed a photo ID back when they did.

A state ID in PA is $13.50 and is surprisingly quick at the DMV to renew. They require no documentation to renew (assuming you have the expired ID). If you renew online, you simply walk in and they hand you the new ID or take a new picture within minutes, with no wait necessary.

The voter ID law in PA provides voter ID's for free.

[Hauldren Collider]

State ID. Whatever. That's what I meant. Yes, you don't actually have to be a licensed motorist to get a state identification.

[Al B. Sure!]

The other day, Bill Maher said Black people don't have ID's (which he confused with drivers licenses) because they're poor and take the bus.

I wonder if Bill Maher was having slave-master fantasies when he was ****ing Superhead.

[DaShi]

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resources/publications/category/voter_id/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/pennsylvania-voter-id-trial_n_1697980.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Why keep having the same conversation?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I was under the impression that it was a Ted Nugent album.

[Dr Strangelove]

I've known many people who don't even have driver's licenses. What if you're an epileptic? Blind? Crippled? What if you got hurt, lost your job, then lost your home and car so you didn't renew your license because you didn't have a car?

[Jon Miller]

Two quick questions, firstly what photo ID is required for legal employment? Also, do photo ID's not have a validity dates on them? Things like opening bank accounts are things many people only do once. Many people wouldn't have opened a new account for decades and probably wouldn't have needed a photo ID back when they did.

I don't think I have ever had a photo ID required for employment in the US.

JM