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  • #76
    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Taking risks is exactly how Mitt Romney made his bed of money.
    Yes. I was countering reg's claim that people with a safety net don't take risks because they don't need to. We see rich people (businessmen such as Romney) taking risks all the time, despite the fact that they could just sit back and be rich.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      You want data? Take a quick count of all the silicon valley startups that are valued in the millions that didn't exist just five years ago. Every one of those is an example of someone starting with very little and ending out with a lot, requiring nothing but ingenuity.
      Ever hear of the dot.com bust youngling?
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
        Wage taxes reduce investment income by themselves, by reducing the principal. The correct tax rate on investment income is 0. Paul Ryan wants to treat investment and non-investment equally, just like you. The difference between him and you is that he understands math.
        It all comes out to how much total tax you pay. For those who believe in a progressive income tax there is no problem with taxing investment income as it just increases the total tax of those with high incomes. It really doesn't matter how you increase the tax for those with high incomes.
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        • #79
          I'm really amused that the people who are most infuriated with the current deficit are the people who care the least about how little tax people who can afford to pay tax actually pay.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            Taking risks is exactly how Mitt Romney made his bed of money.
            It doesn't really count as risk when failure just means you'll have to settle for tens of millions not hundreds.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Asher View Post
              I'm really amused that the people who are most infuriated with the current deficit are the people who care the least about how little tax people who can afford to pay tax actually pay.
              EVERYONE should pay more. Every ****ing one. Some people significantly more than others, but everyone is undertaxed in this country.
              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                EVERYONE should pay more. Every ****ing one. Some people significantly more than others, but everyone is undertaxed in this country.
                Why not just make the government smaller and solve it without stealing more money?

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                • #83
                  Why not do both, because just doing one or the other isn't going the fix the deficit.
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                  • #84
                    Guynemer thinks opposition to taxes is nothing but stinginess, and not the fact that taxes dampen economic growth.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                      Why not do both, because just doing one or the other isn't going the fix the deficit.
                      
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        Guynemer thinks opposition to taxes is nothing but stinginess, and doesn't seem to recognize that taxes dampen economic growth.
                        There's far more to life, liberty, and happiness than GDP.

                        Last I checked, the US' economic growth outpaced Canada's...except our government isn't ridiculously in debt, doesn't carry obscene deficits, and Canadians are healthier and happier.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          Guynemer thinks opposition to taxes is nothing but stinginess, and not the fact that taxes dampen economic growth.


                          Any other amazing insights into my psyche, Kreskin?
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                          • #88
                            Even a die hard liberal must admit that government will inevitably grow if left to its own devices, as people in any given department will always want more money for whatever their branch does - it's not even wrong of them, really; it's their job to advocate for their cause. Occasionally you must reduce the programs that exist, because creep must occur, and their will be too much spending on some programs.

                            Honestly, the simplest solution might be to have a twenty year limit on ANY spending, and require a full reconsideration of all budget items from scratch every twenty years or so. But that would require actual work on the part of our congressmen and women =/
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Guynemer View Post


                              Any other amazing insights into my psyche, Kreskin?
                              This is something you've said yourself in the past. I'm not doing a mind-reading here. If I am misremembering or mischaracterizing, I apologize.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by snoopy369 View Post
                                Honestly, the simplest solution might be to have a twenty year limit on ANY spending, and require a full reconsideration of all budget items from scratch every twenty years or so. But that would require actual work on the part of our congressmen and women =/
                                I doubt it would work. We've seen what happens when Congress sets deadlines for itself. It finds a way around them.
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