American Gun Owners

[Lonestar]

You have to register to vote, right?

[Uncle Sparky]

You have to register to vote, right?

True.

[Kidlicious]

I don't own a gun, but I'm going to buy Holster Underwear when it comes out.

[Lonestar]

Well, like I said when I answered, there's no practical reason why there shouldn't be gun registration. Gun registration infringes the right to bear arms about as much as voter registration does. Gun ownership advocates claim it's STEP 1 in taking their guns, but hey, Florida can purge registered voters so it isn't like voting is immune to registration-related shenanighans.


So, I would like Sloww to post that you shouldn't need to register, or show ID, to vote.

[Aeson]

Would that be to take advantage of puns involving the caliber of your package?

[SlowwHand]

Little strange, Kid.

So, I would like Sloww to post that you shouldn't need to register, or show ID, to vote.

I definitely think ID should be required to vote. Are you clumsily trying to draw a parallel with gun registration?
A) They're quite different subjects.
B) I don't think that I ever stated that I was against gun registration. I don't know that I'm for it, but I don't think I've ever said that I wasn't.

[Lonestar]

Little strange, Kid.

I definitely think ID should be required to vote. Are you clumsily trying to draw a parallel with gun registration?

Howabout being registered to vote?

A) They're quite different subjects.

We're talking about CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARENTEED Rights, are we not?

B) I don't think that I ever stated that I was against gun registration. I don't know that I'm for it, but I don't think I've ever said that I wasn't.

I said what gun ownership advocates say about why they think that gun registration isn't the same as car registration...but I was also careful to say that I don't think there is a good reason to not register guns. You left that off, presenting the "cars are not a guarenteed right" in a vacuum, which indicates to some people that you may be against the registration of firearms.

[SlowwHand]

YES, registered to vote. I want to make sure I phrase it exactly correct for you.

I'm a gun owner advocate and I said that I don't know. Once again, absolute declarations are a failure.

[Lonestar]

YES, registered to vote. I want to make sure I phrase it exactly correct for you.

I'm a gun owner advocate and I said that I don't know. Once again, absolute declarations are a failure.

If it's a enumerated right, then they should all get the same treatment.

[SlowwHand]

That is called an opinion. I don't guess it matters. President is supposed to be native.

[MOBIUS]

Mossberg 500 Persuader 12 Gauge Pump-Action. Comes with alternate pistol grip.

Wow, look at the size of that thing!

I bet Slowwie was mighty pleased with himself when his first pubes came through - till he realised he couldn't find his penis any more!

I just think it's sad that where you live is so dangerous that you feel you have to own a shotgun. After all - it's not like you can take it down to the firing range...

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Nice picture. So -

1) So American gun owners, do you insure your guns as part of your tenants'/homeowners' insurance? (As a Canadian, when I buy/bought tenants'/homeowners' insurance, there are/were questions about what firearms I own, there value and what sort of storage I have for guns and ammo.)

2) Do you insure guns seperately?

3) Do some of you not have any 'property' insurance?

4) If your gun/guns are stolden, would you report it to the police?

**) Finally - bonus question only for those that answer the above questions, if cars can be licenced and tracked through insurance and licencing, why not guns?

1) No but not required to as they are still covered under existing policy
2) No
3) See 1
4) Yes as part of the breaking and entering crime and theft of any and all property therein

Bonus question needs clarification - Under what pretense is the licensiing required? What value and jurisdiction does the licensing apply to? As a point of the matter hunting rifles, shotguns and the like are not currenlty required to have any registration while short barreled rifles and short barreled shot guns are. What is the pretense/case the government is attempting to invoke to warrant the registration and tracking? Further how does this square against the costs of such an endeavor?


As for the cars example the pretense is rather simple. The government has a compelling interest to know whether cars are road worthy or not as they have ongoing needs to understand road usage and the accruing costs of maintenance and new builds. Further they have interpreted an environmnetal impact as well from the usage of the vehicles. Cars on the other hand do not need to necessarily be licensed if sitting idle or operated wholly within the bounds of your own property (ie. not operated on the public roads), contra even the environmental impacts.

[The Mad Monk]

Wow, look at the size of that thing!

I bet Slowwie was mighty pleased with himself when his first pubes came through - till he realised he couldn't find his penis any more!

I just think it's sad that where you live is so dangerous that you feel you have to own a shotgun. After all - it's not like you can take it down to the firing range...

The 500 has the shortest barrel you can legally own without a permit, and 12 guage is the "Mama Bear" guage. You're such an idiot.

[Kidlicious]

My barrel is sawed off.

[Hauldren Collider]

You can take shotguns to ranges, you just have to fire slugs. And you can always shoot clay pigeons with birdshot.