Perry Nullifies Obamacare in Texas!

[DinoDoc]

As of right now 100% of the expansion of medicare is covered by the Feds and it has been pre-funded for years.

Liar.

[Dinner]

DinoDoc proves he's clueless once again.

The federal government agreed to pay the full tab for the Medicaid expansion when it begins in 2014. But after three years, states must pay a gradually increasing share that tops out at 10 percent of the cost.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jFQLIOhRaoLKCGMdbrkctPq0ohbg?docId=52f7494af7b9481086112b3889eb0c23

So, for several years the Feds will pick up 100% of the cost and even after that they've committed to picking up 90% of the costs if the state pays for 1/10th of the costs. Even that will probably get extended to the Feds picking up 100% of the cost as it's so politically popular.

Perry and the other idiots are throwing away free money mostly because they want to do some political posturing. Yep, literally condemning tens of thousands of their own citizens to death just so they can grandstand. People should have nothing but contempt for those bastards.

[DinoDoc]

DinoDoc proves he's clueless once again.

Liar:

The Denver Post reports Thursday (http://goo.gl/B4lmS ) that a Kaiser Family Foundation study shows Colorado would spend $470 million for its share of the Medicaid expansion between 2014 and 2019. The study says the federal government's share of the expansion for Colorado would be $6.9 billion during that time, or 94 percent.
Study: CO Medicaid expansion could cost $470M

PS You are also an idiot for believing that free money exists.

[SlowwHand]

That's why California is in ruins.

[onodera]

And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? If people weren't paying half their income to support the states, they could afford to donate more to charitable causes, or *gasp*, buy their own private insurance.

Why not? Why should people who make more than me pay more in taxes? Don't they deserve to keep what they worked hard to earn?

You don't have any idea what taxation is for, do you? Rich people get less from the government than they pay taxes, poor people get more; that's what the ****ing taxes are for.

[regexcellent]

No. Taxes are to fund necessary government services like roads, police and fire protection, etc. Texas funds most of that itself.

Not signing up for the new medicaid disaster is a very good thing which every state should do.

[Dinner]

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/07/gov_bobby_jindal_blasted_for_r.html#comments

Jindal is getting a bunch of criticism in Louisiana for doing the same thing Perry did by turning down free money. It's obvious grandstanding to pander to the base and I suspect the GOP will do exactly what they did with the stimulus funds; I.E. initially publicly claim they don't want it but then after the cameras have gone quietly take the free money. Worse the hypocrites tried to take credit for every school repaired, every road built, etc... Even while claiming the stimulus did no good and didn't generate any new work. I'm tired of their political bull****.

[Dinner]

Liar:

The Denver Post reports Thursday (http://goo.gl/B4lmS ) that a Kaiser Family Foundation study shows Colorado would spend $470 million for its share of the Medicaid expansion between 2014 and 2019. The study says the federal government's share of the expansion for Colorado would be $6.9 billion during that time, or 94 percent.
Study: CO Medicaid expansion could cost $470M

Gee, the AP says other wise so who do I trust? Fact based reporting or a partisan editorial? I know which one I trust more to be factual.

[Dinner]

That's why California is in ruins.

FACT: California's financial position is better off than most states. You watch too much Fox Noise. Go ahead and look up the maps detailing state budget deficits as a percentage of GDP or state debt as a percentage of GDP. While you're at it you can look up how Texas is a ****hole which is worst in the country in dozens of categories. Most uninsured, most people dying prematurely from preventable illness, etc...

[DinoDoc]

Gee, the AP says other wise so who do I trust? Fact based reporting or a partisan editorial? I know which one I trust more to be factual.

Clearly the Associated Press and the Kaiser Family Foundation are merely Koch fronts.

[SlowwHand]

Oerdin, spout all the bull**** that you want to spout. It won't make you correct.

[Dinner]

Clearly the Associated Press and the Kaiser Family Foundation are merely Koch fronts.

I quoted the Associated Press, you dullard, and they reported the exact opposite of your opinion piece. You're getting more pathetic by the minute.

[Dinner]

Oerdin, spout all the bull**** that you want to spout. It won't make you correct.

It's not bull**** that Texas has the largest percentage of the population uninsured nor is it bull**** that more people die in Texas from preventable illness than in any other state even as a percentage of population. We had a whole thread about why Texas sucks about a year ago, maybe you remember it. Now, I understand why you didn't like it but it was all factually based on different categories of metrics and even if you don't like it, well, it's still true.

[regexcellent]

The only reason being uninsured is a problem is the fact that insurance companies are allowed to negotiate higher prices for the uninsured. You can thank the democrats in Congress for that.

[regexcellent]

Incidentally, if the health care law does take effect and is not repealed, I plan to go uninsured. Nothing else makes sense since I will be paying a massively higher premium due to limits on how much more they can charge old people and women, and pre-existing conditions can't be excluded. As a young white male, my premiums should be pretty low, but they won't be thanks to obamacare.