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There are so many things wrong with this logic it makes my head hurt. To start:
1) Unhappiness is only distantly related (if at all) to reproductive fitness.
2) Many things that are far worse disadvantages to reproductive fitness (e.g. Down's syndrome) continue to exist. The process of natural selection doesn't render every single creature physically ideal.
1) Difficulty surviving to reproduce, or meeting some of the prerequisites for reproduction has a clear effect on happiness.
2) You are correct that natural selection does not prevent mutations that cause Down's syndrome
You're being an idiot, gribbler. You are more intelligent than this, and I'm pretty sure you know and understand precisely why your arguments are stupid. I'm not going to bother.
Do either of you two understand Down's Syndrome? It's not a hereditary condition, it is a result of trisomy of chromosome 23...ie, faulty meiosis, ie, ovulation - hence the correlation with the age of the mother. You need to pick a better example methinks.
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith
Do either of you two understand Down's Syndrome? It's not a hereditary condition, it is a result of trisomy of chromosome 23...ie, faulty meiosis, ie, ovulation - hence the correlation with the age of the mother. You need to pick a better example methinks.
Maybe he thinks genetics fails to prevent faulty meiosis? I don't know.
Do either of you two understand Down's Syndrome? It's not a hereditary condition, it is a result of trisomy of chromosome 23...ie, faulty meiosis, ie, ovulation - hence the correlation with the age of the mother. You need to pick a better example methinks.
1) I am familiar with this. I also know that there is some hereditary component to it (in the sense that some people are at somewhat higher risk of having children with Down's syndrome).
2) We all know that there are plenty of examples of hereditary traits that adversely affect reproductive fitness. It doesn't really matter whether Down's syndrome is a good one.
Finally, all gribbler has presented is a theoretical argument (and a poor one at that) for the idea that being gay shouldn't have an adverse effect on happiness which is directly contradicted by readily available evidence.
But being gay doesn't make your penis not work. I don't think being gay really affects reproductive fitness. In most Western cultures, gays just hid it and had kids.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Finally, all gribbler has presented is a theoretical argument (and a poor one at that) for the idea that being gay shouldn't have an adverse effect on happiness which is directly contradicted by readily available evidence.
When the reason gays are unhappy is because other people keep being ****s to them, that's not really a sensible argument for why we should try and weed out the gay gene. Seriously dude, I thought you were joking when you started this.
But being gay doesn't make your penis not work. I don't think being gay really affects reproductive fitness. In most Western cultures, gays just hid it and had kids.
I agree; this is another argument against gribbler's silly detour.
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